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1 posted on 02/12/2022 6:57:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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2 posted on 02/12/2022 6:58:49 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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3 posted on 02/12/2022 7:01:41 AM PST by LibWhacker
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Back to REALLY COLD for my part of America. Sunny today, but it's been overcast for what feels like WEEKS. And we have little snow, so it's just a muddy, ugly mess out there. I need to look at sunny, warm, inviting greenhouses, today!


6 posted on 02/12/2022 7:08:00 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Free Greenhouse info; https://permasteader.com/cloud/index.php/s/erJoEN8fDDnrr7j
30 files with anything from building them, general growing in them, heating them, growing specific crops in them.

Free High Tunnel aka Hoop House info; https://permasteader.com/cloud/index.php/s/aZaTSykw9b6Mo3g
33 files similar to greenhouse info.

Almost all are pdf files and preview-able in the cloud software. Most are from various university ag extensions.

Late posting in last week’s thread. My seed starting supplies and methods research. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4035665/posts?page=68#68

Based me and my situation with a small and slightly drafty place heated with wood only and me wanting standardized equipment due to having a dream of doing a little market gardening one day. Works out to $200 for 4 sq ft of seed starting area but half of that is the heating mats and temp controllers for them which most people probably wouldn’t need. Heat mats without using a controller, keep the trays 10-20 degrees above ambient/room temperature. Mats are $20 and controller is $36.

Diana and I has a little back and forth in subsequent posts and she has a much cheaper way. Jiffy Pellets and whatever trays she has scrounged. Not sure if she uses grow lights or heat.


23 posted on 02/12/2022 9:02:34 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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Johnny's has a seed starting date calculator. Enter you're frost free date and it gives you dates for starting indoors and dates transplanting outdoors.

https://www.johnnyseeds.com/growers-library/seed-planting-schedule-calculator.html


37 posted on 02/12/2022 11:01:54 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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Wondering if anyone has been successful in starting seeds in K-cups. If so, what plants worked or didn’t work?


38 posted on 02/12/2022 11:16:48 AM PST by WHATNEXT?
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We have enjoyed a bit of a warming trend over the past week here in Central Missouri. It snapped back to cold last night, but most of the snow has melted and the paved roads are clear and dry now. The country roads are a sloppy mess with the freeze/thaw cycles, but that happens every year so we’re used to it.

I’ve been researching greenhouses, and oh my goodness are they ever proud of those things! A high-quality 8’x12’ kit is north of $3200 before tax and shipping.

I did some ciphering this morning and figure I can build the same size, but much sturdier, greenhouse from scratch for under $1500. I’ve got a plan on paper and the materials list calculated. All that’s left to do is go to the lumberyard, place my order, and then build it. I can get the framing done while I’m waiting on the panels to arrive.

If there are no major delays getting the panels I should have it done by salad planting time this spring.


39 posted on 02/12/2022 11:30:40 AM PST by Augie
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Good Afternoon! :-)

Now. Where’s my coffee?LOL!


40 posted on 02/12/2022 11:46:53 AM PST by left that other site (A Man Without Self-Control is like a City Broken Into and Left Without Walls (Proverbs 25:28))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Frost dates on https://garden.org/apps/frost-dates/

Pretty useful as it gives you a range of temps and percentages as opposed to a single date or date range for last frost day. 50% chance of 32 on May 5 and Oct 1 for me. Almanac has me at May 6th for frost free date, https://www.almanac.com/gardening/frostdates


Also from Almanac; https://www.almanac.com/vegetable-growing-guide (supposed to be a width of 720px but it ain't working

Vegetables Growing Guide

Note: Each of the vegetables listed below links to an individual vegetable plant guide that covers sowing to growing to harvest!

VegetableStart Seeds Indoors (weeks before last spring frost)Start Seeds Outdoors (weeks before or after last spring frost)Minimum Soil Temp. to Germinate (°F)Cold HardinessWhen to FertilizeWhen to Water
BeansAnytime after48–50TenderAfter heavy bloom and set of podsRegularly, from start of pod to set
Beets3 before to 3 after39–41Half-hardyAt time of plantingOnly during drought conditions
Broccoli6–82–3 before55–75HardyThree weeks after transplantingOnly during drought conditions
Brussels sprouts6–855–75HardyThree weeks after transplantingAt transplanting
Cabbage6–81 before to 1 after38–40HardyThree weeks after transplantingTwo to three weeks before harvest
Carrots3–5 before39–41Half-hardyPreferably in the fall for the following springOnly during drought conditions
Cauliflower6–81 before to 1after65–75Half-hardyThree weeks after transplantingOnce, three weeks before harvest
Celery6–860–70TenderAt time of transplantingOnce a week
Corn2 after46–50TenderWhen eight to ten inches tall, and again when first silk appearsWhen tassels appear and cobs start to swell
Cucumbers2–41–2 after65–70Very tenderOne week after bloom, and again three weeks laterFrequently, especially when fruits form
Lettuce4–61 before to 2 after40–75Half-hardyTwo to three weeks after transplantingOnce a week
Melons2–42 after55–60Very tenderOne week after bloom, and again three weeks laterOnce a week
Onion sets4 before34–36HardyWhen bulbs begin to swell, and again when plants are one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Parsnips0–3 before55–70HardyOne year before plantingOnly during drought conditions
Peas4–6 before34–36HardyAfter heavy bloom and set of podsRegularly, from start of pod to set
Peppers8–1070–80Very tenderAfter first fruit-setOnce a week
Potato tubers0–2 after55–70Half-hardyAt bloom time or time of second hillingRegularly, when tubers start to form
Pumpkins2–41 after55–60TenderJust before vines start to run, when plants are about one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Radishes1 before to 1 after39–41HardyBefore spring plantingOnce a week
Spinach4–6 before55–65HardyWhen plants are one-third grownOnce a week
Squash, summer2–41 after55–60Very tenderJust before vines start to run, when plants are about one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Squash, winter2–41 after55–60TenderJust before vines start to run, when plants are about one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Tomatoes6–850–55TenderTwo weeks before, and after first pickingTwice a week

69 posted on 02/14/2022 6:46:43 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; metmom
Why grow your own food? | Backyard Food Security Seminar with Steve Upson
Steve Upson formerly served as a senior horticulture consultant and worked at Noble Research Institute since 1988. He received a bachelor’s degree in horticulture from the Oklahoma State University and a master’s degree in horticulture from Kansas State University. Before joining Noble, he served as a county and area Extension horticulture specialist with the Oklahoma State University Extension service and managed a commercial market garden operation east of Kansas City, Missouri. His areas of interest include raised bed and container gardening, commercial market gardening, and high tunnel (hoop house) construction and management.

Youtube playlist I watched a few years back. Good introductory/overview series. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIIQw8FHFtX9RYuIpZxfJey1G2kxIdhd_

Contents


70 posted on 02/14/2022 8:04:38 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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Raised beds for accessibility. Nine junk truck tires, some metal roofing and wood strips plus hardware.

They left the sides open to be able to put a foot under to go easier on your lower back. I would either close it in or put something on the ground to block grass/weeds. Tough spot even for a string trimmer.

https://www.noble.org/globalassets/docs/ag/pubs/horticulture/nf-ho-15-01.pdf

72 posted on 02/14/2022 8:18:26 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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New book alert

Water-Wise Gardening by Steve Solomon - Paperback – February 2, 2022

Modern gardening books tell us to ditch large row gardens in favor of small raised beds filled with lots of compost. Authors and teachers now argue that wide spacing is wasteful and tiny gardens are the wave of the future. Yet our ancestors knew how to garden in tough times, often without irrigation or big piles of compost. Their experience led them not to tiny plots, but to wide spacing and a meager use of resources—especially water! In a time of climate change and droughts, wildfires and food shortages, learning to garden without intensive resources is vital to our survival. You can grow great vegetables with little input by transforming the way you garden and irrigate. Learn to grow with or without irrigation in this revised, rewritten, and expanded classic from gardening superstar Steve Solomon.

https://www.amazon.com/Water-Wise-Gardening-Steve-Solomon/dp/1955289107

Only place I see it available.

79 posted on 02/14/2022 5:59:54 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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80 posted on 02/15/2022 7:42:50 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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