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Weekly Garden Thread - February 12-18, 2022 [Greenhouse Envy Edition]
February 12, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memorium

Posted on 02/12/2022 6:57:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

FarmTek’s Growspan Elite is a little over $4k now if you buy the steel base. That is plumb loco.

Our money isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.


61 posted on 02/13/2022 11:23:26 AM PST by Augie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
A chocolate garden in Switzerland!

Läderach Pralines Showcase, Weggisgasse, Lucerne, Switzerland

Careful Diana! Caffine! Too much Chocolate and you will be up all night! :)


62 posted on 02/13/2022 11:34:24 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Orion is under her feet! )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good afternoon. Anytime of day is great for a hot cup of coffee!


63 posted on 02/13/2022 1:01:11 PM PST by tob2 (So much to do; so little desire to do it.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We are waiting for whatever the storm is going to give us. It is cold and “raw” outside. Despite the ups and down of temperatures, the daffodils are sending up lots and lots of shoots. Both the ones planted outdoors and the ones planted indoors. Can’t wait to start sowing seeds outdoors!


64 posted on 02/13/2022 1:07:34 PM PST by tob2 (So much to do; so little desire to do it.)
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To: Augie

Agreed. However, FarmTek is an AWESOME Day Trip for anyone in the area. They have all of their HUGE buildings and greenhouses set up to tour. I LOVED it.

BUT - Beau promised me a greenhouse if I offered to sell everything I owned, marry him and move to HIS farm, versus mine. Leaving my greenhouse behind was very, very hard! *SNIFF* LOL! (The things we do for love!)

He paid for it all, not me. Win/Win! :)

That said, my FIRST ‘greenhouse’ was some pallets on the ground, and sliding glass doors that I found in the chicken coop, laid across a south-facing building.

And I promptly COOKED everything I put in there, LOL!

I know you’ll come up with something AWESOME on the cheap. Of that, I have no doubt! :)


65 posted on 02/13/2022 5:13:23 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

LOL! I am ‘The Goddess of the Hunt’ for what THAT’S worth these days, based upon our ‘no deer this year’ year. :(

I’ll just have to ‘hunt’ for bargains on Chocolate come Tuesday. ;)


66 posted on 02/13/2022 5:16:05 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: tob2
"Can’t wait to start sowing seeds outdoors!"

We've ALL got Spring Fever!


67 posted on 02/13/2022 5:21:21 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Diana is always pictured with her hunting hounds!

Make sure on Tueday you take your Chocolate Labs! (And Good hunting!)


68 posted on 02/13/2022 8:02:52 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Frost dates on https://garden.org/apps/frost-dates/

Pretty useful as it gives you a range of temps and percentages as opposed to a single date or date range for last frost day. 50% chance of 32 on May 5 and Oct 1 for me. Almanac has me at May 6th for frost free date, https://www.almanac.com/gardening/frostdates


Also from Almanac; https://www.almanac.com/vegetable-growing-guide (supposed to be a width of 720px but it ain't working

Vegetables Growing Guide

Note: Each of the vegetables listed below links to an individual vegetable plant guide that covers sowing to growing to harvest!

VegetableStart Seeds Indoors (weeks before last spring frost)Start Seeds Outdoors (weeks before or after last spring frost)Minimum Soil Temp. to Germinate (°F)Cold HardinessWhen to FertilizeWhen to Water
BeansAnytime after48–50TenderAfter heavy bloom and set of podsRegularly, from start of pod to set
Beets3 before to 3 after39–41Half-hardyAt time of plantingOnly during drought conditions
Broccoli6–82–3 before55–75HardyThree weeks after transplantingOnly during drought conditions
Brussels sprouts6–855–75HardyThree weeks after transplantingAt transplanting
Cabbage6–81 before to 1 after38–40HardyThree weeks after transplantingTwo to three weeks before harvest
Carrots3–5 before39–41Half-hardyPreferably in the fall for the following springOnly during drought conditions
Cauliflower6–81 before to 1after65–75Half-hardyThree weeks after transplantingOnce, three weeks before harvest
Celery6–860–70TenderAt time of transplantingOnce a week
Corn2 after46–50TenderWhen eight to ten inches tall, and again when first silk appearsWhen tassels appear and cobs start to swell
Cucumbers2–41–2 after65–70Very tenderOne week after bloom, and again three weeks laterFrequently, especially when fruits form
Lettuce4–61 before to 2 after40–75Half-hardyTwo to three weeks after transplantingOnce a week
Melons2–42 after55–60Very tenderOne week after bloom, and again three weeks laterOnce a week
Onion sets4 before34–36HardyWhen bulbs begin to swell, and again when plants are one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Parsnips0–3 before55–70HardyOne year before plantingOnly during drought conditions
Peas4–6 before34–36HardyAfter heavy bloom and set of podsRegularly, from start of pod to set
Peppers8–1070–80Very tenderAfter first fruit-setOnce a week
Potato tubers0–2 after55–70Half-hardyAt bloom time or time of second hillingRegularly, when tubers start to form
Pumpkins2–41 after55–60TenderJust before vines start to run, when plants are about one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Radishes1 before to 1 after39–41HardyBefore spring plantingOnce a week
Spinach4–6 before55–65HardyWhen plants are one-third grownOnce a week
Squash, summer2–41 after55–60Very tenderJust before vines start to run, when plants are about one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Squash, winter2–41 after55–60TenderJust before vines start to run, when plants are about one foot tallOnly during drought conditions
Tomatoes6–850–55TenderTwo weeks before, and after first pickingTwice a week

69 posted on 02/14/2022 6:46:43 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; metmom
Why grow your own food? | Backyard Food Security Seminar with Steve Upson
Steve Upson formerly served as a senior horticulture consultant and worked at Noble Research Institute since 1988. He received a bachelor’s degree in horticulture from the Oklahoma State University and a master’s degree in horticulture from Kansas State University. Before joining Noble, he served as a county and area Extension horticulture specialist with the Oklahoma State University Extension service and managed a commercial market garden operation east of Kansas City, Missouri. His areas of interest include raised bed and container gardening, commercial market gardening, and high tunnel (hoop house) construction and management.

Youtube playlist I watched a few years back. Good introductory/overview series. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIIQw8FHFtX9RYuIpZxfJey1G2kxIdhd_

Contents


70 posted on 02/14/2022 8:04:38 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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71 posted on 02/14/2022 8:16:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Raised beds for accessibility. Nine junk truck tires, some metal roofing and wood strips plus hardware.

They left the sides open to be able to put a foot under to go easier on your lower back. I would either close it in or put something on the ground to block grass/weeds. Tough spot even for a string trimmer.

https://www.noble.org/globalassets/docs/ag/pubs/horticulture/nf-ho-15-01.pdf

72 posted on 02/14/2022 8:18:26 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: All
Not all Love Notes are written!


73 posted on 02/14/2022 8:20:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard

Is there anything more useful on the farm than junk tires? I think not!

Great set-up. Our plant is to ‘raise’ all of our raised beds as I get older by adding a second ‘layer’ of wooden frames to them.


74 posted on 02/14/2022 10:21:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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So, back to the 'Greenhouse' theme. I had fun building this mini-greenhouse from picture frames, this week. I winged it, using Dollar Tree frames, so I could get the basics down on the cheap. About $10 for this first one. I used a combo of Elmer's white glue and E6000 glue:

I plan on using the plans linked below for the next one, as it'll be a bit bigger. The plan is to build a 'village' of them to use as decor around the house, but also at Christmastime. LOVE this in black, but you can paint it any color you want.

https://www.diyncrafts.com/53040/home/gardening/how-to-make-a-miniature-greenhouse-from-picture-frames

75 posted on 02/14/2022 10:32:01 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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https://www.diyncrafts.com/53040/home/gardening/how-to-make-a-miniature-greenhouse-from-picture-frames


76 posted on 02/14/2022 10:32:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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If you wanted to build an even bigger one for use outside in a garden bed, I would leave the glass out of it, so rain and water could get in and you wouldn’t accidentally COOK anything. The effect would be the same.

Or make sure it’s in shade all day...


77 posted on 02/14/2022 10:36:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Squatting and bending over kills me already. That's ok, I have a kid sitting here.

Just started a germination test on some old seeds today. 6 & 7 years old. Two types of spinach and two types of lettuce. Both are supposed to be good for up to 5 years according to an ag ext publication I have. Got more than I need so even if I get 50% germination, I'll just start 2-3 times as many as I think I'll need.


78 posted on 02/14/2022 1:48:04 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
New book alert

Water-Wise Gardening by Steve Solomon - Paperback – February 2, 2022

Modern gardening books tell us to ditch large row gardens in favor of small raised beds filled with lots of compost. Authors and teachers now argue that wide spacing is wasteful and tiny gardens are the wave of the future. Yet our ancestors knew how to garden in tough times, often without irrigation or big piles of compost. Their experience led them not to tiny plots, but to wide spacing and a meager use of resources—especially water! In a time of climate change and droughts, wildfires and food shortages, learning to garden without intensive resources is vital to our survival. You can grow great vegetables with little input by transforming the way you garden and irrigate. Learn to grow with or without irrigation in this revised, rewritten, and expanded classic from gardening superstar Steve Solomon.

https://www.amazon.com/Water-Wise-Gardening-Steve-Solomon/dp/1955289107

Only place I see it available.

79 posted on 02/14/2022 5:59:54 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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80 posted on 02/15/2022 7:42:50 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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