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Julius Jones execution live updates: Governor spares life of Julius Jones
The Oklahoman ^ | 11/18/2021 | Staff

Posted on 11/18/2021 10:41:35 AM PST by Tom in SFCA

Julius Jones was scheduled to be executed at 4 p.m. Thursday at the Oklahoma State Penitentiary in McAlester. Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt, however, announced at noon Thursday he has commuted Jones' sentence to life without the possibility of parole.

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To: Paradox

Looking at it dispassionately it does appear that the conviction is suspect. There is compelling evidence that he wasn’t the guy who did it. But I guess the kneejerk reaction is to always howl for blood. Like liberals.


41 posted on 11/18/2021 11:47:47 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: JusPasenThru
executing him won’t bring the victim back.

It will prevent future ones.

Yes, even in jail, killers kill.

People who think like you should be forced to live with these guys.

You are willing to put other innocents at risk because you are too gutless to do your job,

42 posted on 11/18/2021 11:51:51 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: dfwgator; DoodleDawg; BroJoeK
Another Repuke who needs to be primaried out.

That was my first thought, but then it occurred to me that Oklahoma is in the news lately about the newly appointed general of the Oklahoma National Guard saying his troops wouldn't have to take the vaccine. I think this current governor just appointed him.

The thought occurs to me that he may be thinking like Lincoln.

"One war at a time."

43 posted on 11/18/2021 11:59:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Mr Rogers

Every attempted alibi of Julius Jones has been refuted strongly. Link is below with refutation on all spurious alibis offered by JJ when his brilliant trial strategy didn’t prevail. He was lucky to find a weak Governor swayed by social media hordes. It does great disservice to the lawyers, judges, jurors, and family members.

https://www.justiceforpaulhowell.com/

Gwjack


44 posted on 11/18/2021 11:59:38 AM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: Mr Rogers
In 2018, at the request of the defense counsel, the state agreed to test the DNA on the bandanna. The bandanna was sent to a lab chosen by the defense. The conclusive results of the DNA profile on the red bandanna show the probability of the DNA belonging to someone other than Jones is one in 110 million African Americans.”

I'm not sure that makes any sense. Since the bandana was found in Jones house, what would it prove to show his blood was on it? Now the murder victim's blood would be significant, but that is not what is being said above.

45 posted on 11/18/2021 12:03:12 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JusPasenThru

There is such a thing as justice. It’s not about bringing anyone back.


46 posted on 11/18/2021 12:03:39 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Paradox
I agree with this outcome. No cuck here. Lots of Freepers have modified their view about the death penalty.

How have they modified it? My position has always been that if the evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt that someone committed murder, then they should be executed for it.

I have long objected to tax payers being sentenced to "life in prison."

47 posted on 11/18/2021 12:05:04 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Tom in SFCA

If he didn’t do it, and got the death penalty, that would be horrible. BUT, he would have up to 20 years to come to Jesus and live for eternity with the LORD. I guess most people don’t look at things that way, but they should. Where we spend eternity is infinitely more important than where or how we spend the rest of our lives on earth.
If he DID do it, he deserves the death penalty. The LORD, himself, instituted the death penalty, and to reinforce that fact, Jesus had a perfect opportunity to condemn the death penalty while he hung on the cross with the two beside him, who were receiving the death penalty, but He did not. He did, however, give the repentant thief the opportunity to be with him in Heaven.
I do not understand how Jewish or Christian people can fight against the death penalty.


48 posted on 11/18/2021 12:17:51 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Paradox

“I agree with this outcome. No cuck here. Lots of Freepers have modified their view about the death penalty.”

Not me. Fire up Old Sparkey and let’s fry us some criminals.
I’m probably to the right of Ghengis Khan and getting further to the right as I age.

Speaking of the old barbarian, he ruled his empire with only 50-55 laws. He only needed a few because breaking any resulted in DEATH.
It was said a maiden could ride the breadth of his empire with saddlebags laden with gold and silver and never fear for her safety.


49 posted on 11/18/2021 12:41:13 PM PST by oldvirginian (I’m getting tired of being part of a major historical event.)
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To: Tom in SFCA

Seriously, ... are they postulating any new facts


50 posted on 11/18/2021 12:53:17 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“what would it prove to show his blood was on it?”

The bandana was wrapped around the murder weapon.


51 posted on 11/18/2021 12:58:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
The bandana was wrapped around the murder weapon.

And I presume it was known to be the murder weapon through ballistics?

The victim's blood on the bandana would have been more conclusive. Finding the perps blood on his own bandana wouldn't seem of much value to me.

I guess the defense was hoping it would show someone else's blood on the bandana so they could argue it was another perpetrator.

52 posted on 11/18/2021 1:17:03 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Which was hidden in his house.

The excuses on this one are nearly as good as the ones for the teens who shot a baby in a stroller in front of his mother.

They nabbed them, they confessed, lead the police to the murder weapon and there were a few skulls full of mush who insisted that it was actually the mother who shot the baby and was just blaming the poor innocent teens for it.

No death penalty because, teens. So they will be out in a few years free to murder again.

53 posted on 11/18/2021 2:21:19 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I'm not sure that makes any sense. Since the bandana was found in Jones house, what would it prove to show his blood was on it? Now the murder victim's blood would be significant, but that is not what is being said above.

The murder weapon was found wrapped in the bandana. The witnesses said the murderer was wearing a red bandana. The bandana and the weapon were found hidden in Jones' family's house. Dude is guilty as sin.

54 posted on 11/18/2021 2:27:15 PM PST by Tom in SFCA
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Which was hidden in his house.

Yes, which is why I wondered why anyone would not expect to find his DNA on it. The Victim's DNA on it would have been a slam dunk as proof of guilt.

No death penalty because, teens. So they will be out in a few years free to murder again.

The legal system is all out of whack and has been since Roosevelt packed the federal courts with liberal loons.

55 posted on 11/18/2021 2:34:24 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Tom in SFCA
Dude is guilty as sin.

Yes he is, but I don't consider the bandana to be particularly good as proof of it. The Murder weapon is the prime thing, and the Bandana simply supports it.

56 posted on 11/18/2021 2:36:20 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
It was wrapped around the murder weapon.

Bandana, like the one wore by the killer, with his DNA, wrapped around the murder weapon, hidden in his house.

57 posted on 11/18/2021 2:39:16 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The legal system is all out of whack and has been since Roosevelt packed the federal courts with liberal loons.

Oh before that.

I tend to mostly blame Woodrow Wilson although Teddy Roosevelt comes in for his share of the blame.

Even worse then lawyers in government are professors.

Both should, IMHO be banned.

Both live in the land of "let's pretend".

58 posted on 11/18/2021 2:44:45 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: pnz1

Until the next one she says is innocent.


59 posted on 11/18/2021 2:49:35 PM PST by sport
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To: Tom in SFCA

I used to be much more supportive of the death penalty, and still am in many cases. But witnessing the incompetence and outright corruption our law enforcement agents over the last two decades, leaves me with a little trust that they’ll do the right thing if they even know what the right thing is.


60 posted on 11/18/2021 2:56:10 PM PST by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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