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Simulations suggest an Earth or Mars size planet may be lurking out beyond Neptune
Phys.org ^ | October 4, 2021 | Bob Yirka ,

Posted on 10/04/2021 9:26:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin

As scientists continue to study the solar system, they are still trying to understand not only how the planets came to exist but why they occupy their current orbits. In this new effort, the authors note that simulations of the evolution of the solar system are not yet able to explain the current configuration due to missing information. And they suspect that the missing information involves a planet that once circled the sun in the outer solar system (where the gas giants, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune reside) but now exists out beyond the edges of the solar system or even in deep space.

The authors note that there is something odd about the current configuration of the planets, which has four inner rocky planets, an asteroid belt and then four gas giants in the outer solar system. Past the giants are dwarf planets and other objects such as comets.

The researchers...contend that it is unlikely that the natural evolution of our solar system would have four gas giants and then nothing but dwarfs.

Adding another Earth- or Mars-sized planet to the outer solar system, perhaps between two of the gas giants, produces a more accurate model—at least during the early stages of development. Eventually, such a planet would have been pushed farther out into space, either joining the dwarfs, or was driven all the way out into interstellar space, where it would travel alone.

...[N]ew telescopes under construction may be able to spot it and thus confirm their theory.

(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; science; xplanets
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1 posted on 10/04/2021 9:26:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Transneptunian Space: Supplemental Video 3

https://youtu.be/OZyMswfE-Oo


2 posted on 10/04/2021 9:26:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping!


3 posted on 10/04/2021 9:35:56 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin

Good thing that “other planet” wasn’t mentioned. Now the jokes don’t write themselves.

😄


4 posted on 10/04/2021 9:44:32 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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There was a movie about that... it didn’t end well.


5 posted on 10/04/2021 9:44:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

The Man from Planet X...


6 posted on 10/04/2021 9:47:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin

Hubble can’t address this?


7 posted on 10/04/2021 9:51:04 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Army Air Corps

Didn’t think of that film. The one had in mind is named something like Melancholia.


8 posted on 10/04/2021 9:52:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ifinnegan

I see where Hubble was used to take some fuzzy close-ups of Pluto. I’m guessing the biggest thing would be knowing where to aim it to look for a theoretical planet.


9 posted on 10/04/2021 9:56:04 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

“I see where Hubble was used to take some fuzzy close-ups of Pluto. I’m guessing the biggest thing would be knowing where to aim it to look for a theoretical planet.”

Yes. That’s the beauty of combing theoretical and experimental.

Their math and simulations would predict where to point it to test the theory.

I don’t know much about astrophysics so I can’t say whether Hubble should have come across already.


10 posted on 10/04/2021 10:04:00 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

After I posted I read the snip. Seems like they are just trying to add something in to make their model work. And they mention the planet may have wandered off into interstellar space early on in the solar system’s creation.

Trying to figure out something that happened 5 billion years ago or whatever is some daunting stuff. I can see where adding in something like an extra planet to make the model work is reasonable. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if there is also something they don’t know about that is missing from the model.


11 posted on 10/04/2021 10:22:37 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: BenLurkin

Could be Planet Kolob—maybe Mittens knows.


12 posted on 10/04/2021 11:14:38 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: 21twelve

Maybe its Planet Xena! We are running out of Greek Gods and spirits.


13 posted on 10/04/2021 11:18:08 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: BenLurkin

The James Webb Space Telescope, scheduled to be launched, Dec. 18,2021 will have a primary mirror of 6.5 meters (21.3255 feet)in diameter. The Hubble has a primary mirror of 2.4 meters (7.87402 feet) in diameter. Think of the detail the James Webb will have with its 6.25 times more collecting area! Maybe it will see this mysterious planet. Also, the James Webb has tremendous infra red capabilities (from 0.6 to 28 micrometers) while the Hubble studies objects in the ultraviolet spectrum. As the James Webb studies further into the cosmos, light shifts into the infrared spectrum. It may see earth-size planets in distant solar systems.


14 posted on 10/05/2021 12:10:09 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Disambiguator

You must be thinking about the 7th planet.


15 posted on 10/05/2021 3:17:52 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children.)
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To: BenLurkin

“... understand not only how the planets came to exist but why they occupy their current orbits. In this new effort, the authors note that simulations of the evolution of the solar system are not yet able to explain the current configuration due to missing information ...”


Then there are these theories which account for more than present theories :

The Electric Universe : https://www.electricuniverse.info/

The Saturn Myth : https://www.velikovsky.info/the-saturn-myth/
and
https://www.amazon.com/Saturn-Myth-David-N-Talbott/dp/1986773108

Interestingly, the idea that the outer planets were once much closer to the Sun and Earth, Mars, and Venus were moons of Saturn, more closely represents the configuration of planets in other solar systems such that our configuration is an outlier, even unique.

Also see Dark Matter, Missing Planets By Tom Van Flandern (June 26, 1940 – January 9, 2009) was an American astronomer and author specializing in celestial mechanics
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/50230/dark-matter-missing-planets-and-new-comets-by-tom-van-flandern/

and
https://www.starmythworld.com/mathisencorollary/2011/07/comet-origins-and-mysteries-of-mankinds.html

and
http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/


16 posted on 10/05/2021 5:09:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

Excrement from Uranus?


17 posted on 10/05/2021 5:18:15 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: BenLurkin
Have they figured out who is to blame for this happening?

Anti-vaxxers? Trump supporters? Tea Partiers? Confederate sympathizers? Systemic racists? Random racists? Islamophobes? Toxic masculine persons? People who don't recycle? NRA members?

18 posted on 10/05/2021 6:20:48 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; ...
Thanks Army Air Corps.
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19 posted on 10/05/2021 7:12:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin

Nibiru.


20 posted on 10/06/2021 9:23:29 AM PDT by JoeRender
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