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Neutron Beams Could Help Reveal The Elusive 'Fifth Force' of Nature, Scientists Say
sciencealert.com ^ | 14 SEPTEMBER 20214 | MICHELLE STARR

Posted on 09/15/2021 10:11:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Using a technique called pendellösung interferometry, a team of physicists...have used neutron beams to probe the crystal structure of silicon at the highest precision yet achieved...

This has revealed previously unrecognized properties in silicon, a material crucial to technology; more detailed information about the properties of the neutron; and placed important constraints on the fifth force, if it exists.

In a perfect silicon crystal, sheets of atoms in the lattice are arranged in planes that repeat in spacing and orientation. Bouncing the beam precisely off these planes can cause the neutrons to diverge in their routes through the lattice, generating faint interference patterns called pendellösung oscillations that reveal the structural properties of the crystal.

This technique yielded a new measurement of the charge radius in neutrons. Although neutrons are charge neutral, the three quark particles inside them are not. The up quark has a +2/3 charge, and each of the two down quarks has a -1/3 charge, which means overall they cancel each other out.

But inside the neutron, the charge is not evenly distributed. The positive charge concentrates in the center, and the negative around the edges; the distance between the two is called the charge radius.

If it exists, then it may have a force carrier, in the same way that photons are the force carrier for electromagnetism.

The length scale over which a force carrier can act is inversely proportional to its mass. The photon, which is massless, has a limitless range. Pendellösung interferometry can provide constraints on range of the fifth force carrier, which in turn can place limits on its strength.

The team's results have constrained the range of the fifth force carrier tenfold, which means future searches for the fifth force have a smaller range in which to look.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencealert.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; fifthforce; neutrons; physics; science; speedofdark; stringtheory

1 posted on 09/15/2021 10:11:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks BenLurkin. I hope someone's working on the connection between neutrons and oldtrons.


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2 posted on 09/15/2021 11:04:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

>> I hope someone’s working on the connection between neutrons and oldtrons.

To say you figured out the cougertrons?


3 posted on 09/15/2021 11:58:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: BenLurkin

Pendellösung = “pendulum solution” FWIW.


4 posted on 09/16/2021 1:35:41 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke
Re: Your screen name - Moltke

I have not seen that name since I took 19th Century European History in college.

I was not history major, but I still remember many details of the Franco-Prussian War in 1870, even though I read them more than a half century ago.

5 posted on 09/16/2021 2:29:51 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: BenLurkin

The fifth force is Magic.


6 posted on 09/16/2021 3:03:13 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Cornpop was a good dude.)
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To: BenLurkin
Thanks for posting, BenLurkin.

I used to grow hyper-pure silicon crystals when I worked in the computer chip wafer industry a couple decades ago.

How do they harvest enough neutrons to create a beam?

7 posted on 09/16/2021 3:28:06 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Moltke

I hear that there are certain places of adult entertainment and recreation in Hamburg that use a Pendellösung.


8 posted on 09/16/2021 3:33:23 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: zeestephen

One or two other reasons as well for that screen name - too convoluted to explain, sort of an inside joke.


9 posted on 09/16/2021 5:10:03 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Rockingham

St. Pauli Girl - it’s not just a beer...


10 posted on 09/16/2021 5:11:45 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: BenLurkin
Already known :

11 posted on 09/16/2021 5:17:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: zeestephen

A high flux nuclear reactor or a particle accelerator that spallate neutrons off a target


12 posted on 09/16/2021 5:47:58 AM PDT by Cooter (The media opts for narrative over news)
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To: PIF

Leeloo Dallas.


13 posted on 09/16/2021 5:49:20 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: BenLurkin


14 posted on 09/16/2021 7:34:14 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Cooter
Thanks for getting me started, Cooter.

Lots of good introductory material on the web.

I was familiar with the term neutron beam, but after reading the posted article, I realized I had no idea how they isolated them or energized them.

15 posted on 09/16/2021 8:34:50 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Gene Eric

Cougartrons are somehow related to the detection of L-ions.


16 posted on 09/16/2021 9:36:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
{sigh}

I liked the Old Tron......it taught me how computers work.

17 posted on 09/16/2021 9:45:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Old news...
There were at least two TV shows in the 1960’s that were about, and utilized, the fifth force...

OTOH, we now have a VP of the U.S. who has routinely used the filth force to get ahead in politics...


18 posted on 09/16/2021 10:57:42 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: SunkenCiv

lol


19 posted on 09/16/2021 11:49:49 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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