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Bernie Sanders unexpectedly supports SpaceX & wants to stop NASA funding for Blue Origin in the HLS
YouTube ^ | May 25, 2021 | SpaceX Fans

Posted on 05/25/2021 5:05:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Bernie Sanders wants to stop NASA funding for Blue Origin.

Just recently we learned about the Blue Origin lawsuit for NASA and wanted NASA to stop supporting SpaceX and finance itself, but yesterday US congressman Bernie Sanders who is known as the person who hates billionaires has expressed his opinion. wish NASA to terminate the contract with Blue Origin, that would mean the race to the moon as the only SpaceX, Bernie Sanders implicitly support SpaceX and Elon Musk true or not?

However, the way Cantwell's amendment was written would likely have slowed down NASA and its return to the Moon. Were the Cantwell amendment to be signed into law, NASA would have to reopen the competition, thus delaying work on the agency's return to the Moon and putting an already difficult target of 2024 into further jeopardy. Her amendment also ignored NASA's own plans to both create a lunar-lander competition as well as keep the possibility of a 2024 landing on track. Under NASA's plans, SpaceX would work at full speed toward the 2024 landing while a second company would be brought on to compete for subsequent landings.

Thankfully, albeit not at first, a modification has been made to an amendment first proposed by a Senator that has long pursued favorable treatment of Blue Origin that will prevent that legislation – if it passes – from unfairly interrupting the $2.9 billion contract NASA already awarded SpaceX. Announced on April 16th, that award came as a shock, effectively cementing SpaceX’s lunar Starship as both the cheapest and most technically sound proposal to return humanity to the Moon.

Politically, NASA could never say that – effectively biting the hand that (under)feeds – out loud, but it was strongly implied in an official HLS source selection statement released to partially explain why it had chosen SpaceX and SpaceX alone. Almost instantly, both losing competitors – Blue Origin and Dynetics – filed protests with the US Government Accountability Office filled with far more bizarre, rambling tangents than coherent legal arguments.

In the meantime, GAO still has to complete its reviews of Blue Origin and Dynetic’s protests and the White House has to submit its FY2022 budget request and consider adding NASA funding to its proposed jobs and infrastructure package.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: artemis; astronomy; berniesanders; blueorigin; demagogicparty; dynetics; elonmusk; hls; jeffbezos; mariacantwell; nasa; science; spacex; taketheredpill; tesla; vermont; washington; youtube
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1 posted on 05/25/2021 5:05:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Which of his mansions was he in when he attacked some rich people?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wealth+up


2 posted on 05/25/2021 5:08:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Feel the Bern can go to Mars or Pluto and live. Snake eyes prime profits from plannedemic can go too.


3 posted on 05/25/2021 5:13:09 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: PGalt
Well, according to Elton John, “Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids – in fact it’s cold as hell”.

Good thing Burnie's dressed for it:


4 posted on 05/25/2021 5:44:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good ‘ol Maria Cantvotewell strikes again.


5 posted on 05/25/2021 5:44:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

For the past fifty years, liberals have opposed space exploration, saying the money would be better spent on fighting poverty and other projects here on earth. Why has Bernie changed his mind now? Did Elon Musk pay him off?


6 posted on 05/25/2021 5:56:05 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

: ) he’d fit right in with Rocket Man. Marxists/Maoists are cold as hell.


7 posted on 05/25/2021 6:24:56 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Berosus
He does things like this to lull people into a false sense of reality, prior to behaving to form. And being from Vermont, he has to maneuver to get people to support his stuff by playing hard to get.

8 posted on 05/25/2021 6:29:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Blue Origin show rename itself to Super Slow Origin


9 posted on 05/25/2021 7:20:16 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: butlerweave
[singing] It's going to be a Slow Mission, without SpaceX.

10 posted on 05/25/2021 7:42:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: butlerweave

Blue origin has not launched anything into orbit yes, and not really suborbital either. They are like legacy space low and slow development


11 posted on 05/25/2021 7:49:57 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: PIF
I'm trying to find an article about some b____ in Congress (which house, I'm not sure) who tried to get SpaceX dumped because the US gov't shouldn't be spending money on a booster and not get a new one instead of one that had flown before. Yes, she was that stupid in her lying, not sure if that was Cantwell. In 2017 there was a bogus "oversight" report claiming the Falcon 9 had defects that needed to be addressed. Since then, SpaceX has landed about 82 boosters, and the current recordholder has been landed and recovered ten times. Only 62 of the boosters have been reflown (including 9 encores by the one recovered earlier in May), so, the recovery rate by and large isn't perfect, but far exceeds anyone who's ever tried this. :^)

12 posted on 05/25/2021 7:52:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Please Cantwell is know in WA state as Cantvotewell - one of the stupidest people WA ever elected to Congress, other then “Stinky Shoe” Patty Murry.


13 posted on 05/25/2021 7:59:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

Communists like to use capitalist systems to build up industry and then have the state take it. This is because they know that state owned anything does not prosper in the long run, because it will be mismanaged.


14 posted on 05/25/2021 9:56:47 AM PDT by JoeRender
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To: JoeRender
If the delay becomes ridiculous, Musk will just state the fact that SpaceX will be going to the Moon, with or without NASA.

15 posted on 05/25/2021 10:16:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Fresh off of a major contract loss during a competition to build NASA's next crewed Moon lander, Blue Origin has begun aggressively lobbying Congress for the contract NASA didn't give it.

Thankfully, albeit not at first, a modification has been made to an amendment first proposed by a Senator that has long pursued favorable treatment of Blue Origin that will prevent that legislation -- if it passes -- from unfairly interrupting the $2.9 billion contract NASA already awarded SpaceX. Announced on April 16th, that award came as a shock, effectively cementing SpaceX's lunar Starship as both the cheapest and most technically sound proposal to return humanity to the Moon.

As such, although NASA made it clear that it would have selected two of the three competing proposals in a perfect scenario, Congress allocated just a quarter of the Human Landing System (HLS) funding NASA requested, forcing the agency between a rock and a hard place.

NASA repeatedly stated as much both before and after the decision was announced, effectively implying that the agency had learned its lesson with the Commercial Crew Program, in which it had selected two redundant providers -- Boeing and SpaceX -- only for Congress to systematically underfund the program for years. As a direct result of years of underfunding during an early and formative period, both providers suffered at least 2-3 years of delays, followed by another few years of more organic delays as development matured and new challenges were unsurprisingly uncovered.

Politically, NASA could never say that -- effectively biting the hand that (under)feeds -- out loud, but it was strongly implied in an official HLS source selection statement released to partially explain why it had chosen SpaceX and SpaceX alone. Almost instantly, both losing competitors -- Blue Origin and Dynetics -- filed protests with the US Government Accountability Office (GAO) filled with far more bizarre, rambling tangents than coherent legal arguments.

Unless GAO operates on a different standard than the court of law or uncovers something nefarious behind closed doors, a close reading of both partially redacted protests does not bode well for either document's ability to sway the office's opinion. Almost as if Blue Origin itself is aware of just how frivolous its protest really is, the company -- seemingly backed by partners Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, and Leidos -- wasted no time lobbying Senator Maria Cantwell for an alternate avenue to get what it wants and the government money founder Jeff Bezos feels entitled to.
SpaceX's NASA Starship contract safe for now as Blue Origin looks to Congress | Eric Ralph | Posted on May 24, 2021
bocachicagal

16 posted on 05/25/2021 3:28:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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SpaceX has been selected by Firefly Aerospace to send its Blue Ghost lunar lander to the moon in 2023
Zahra Tayeb May 23, 2021, 7:22 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-contract-firefly-aerospace-blue-ghost-lunar-lander-nasa-moon-2021-5

Why NASA Picked SpaceX to Land Humans on the Moon
Casey Dreier & Jason Davis • Apr 20, 2021
And How the Decision Will Help Humans Land on Mars
https://www.planetary.org/articles/why-nasa-picked-spacex-to-land-humans-on-the-moon

NASA Tells SpaceX to Stop Working on Artemis Lunar Lander
Dynetics and Blue Origins have each filed protests with the US Government Accountability Office.
By Stephanie Mlot
May 3, 2021
https://www.pcmag.com/news/nasa-tells-spacex-to-stop-working-on-artemis-lunar-lander

and from the Media Wing of the DNC:

Sen. Maria Cantwell’s legislation would give NASA an additional $10 billion to fund a second lunar lander after SpaceX won a single award
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/05/12/cantwell-blue-origin-jeff-bezos-nasa/

and get woke, go broke:

DC attorney general sues Amazon on antitrust grounds, alleges it illegally raises prices
PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 25 202111:37 AM EDTUPDATED 5 HOURS AGO
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/25/dc-attorney-general-sues-amazon-on-antitrust-grounds-alleges-it-illegally-raises-prices.html


17 posted on 05/25/2021 3:35:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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SpaceX's Starship vehicle sits on the Moon as NASA astronauts explore the surface. Image: SpaceX

SpaceX's Starship vehicle sits on the Moon as NASA astronauts explore the surface.Image: SpaceX

18 posted on 05/25/2021 3:39:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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