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Anti-Vaccine and Anti-Democracy; Two big national problems rolled into one. (NeverTrumper = DNC talking points)
The Bulwark ^ | May 6, 2021 | Brian Kareem

Posted on 05/09/2021 9:05:01 PM PDT by DoodleBob

It appears we face two large crises in the United States. We actually are facing only one.

The first is the public health crisis. As more of us get our coronavirus vaccinations, it is becoming increasingly apparent that tens of millions of people are refusing to get a shot. So although COVID cases will likely drop significantly, we may not reach the vaccination level necessary for herd immunity—and therefore COVID could dangerously linger in some form for years to come.

The second crisis is the anti-democratic movement. We’ve been dealing with this for years, but it reached a dangerous new peak this year. Tens of millions of people believe lies about the 2020 election and continue to support the former president who instigated the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol.

These are not two separate problems.

In each case, public persuasion, using vetted facts, seems to be having very little effect. The public health challenge of the next few months can’t be disentangled from the political problem of the next few years.

In a speech Tuesday, President Joe Biden set forth the administration’s newest vaccination goal: 70 percent of the U.S. adult population with at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine by July 4. It is Biden’s most ambitious public health goal yet. It is laudable and should be doable. Almost 110 million Americans have been fully vaccinated, and nearly 150 million Americans (56 percent of the adults in the country) have had at least one shot.

If it were just a matter of administering the necessary shots to reach Biden’s goal in the next two months, that wouldn’t be a problem. We have the vaccine stocks and the capacity in place to get 90 percent of Americans vaccinated in that timeframe. But there are many Americans who would rather die than get a vaccine—and they may just die or kill others in the process. In a Kaiser Family Foundation tracking poll, 13 percent of Americans say they will “definitely not” get a vaccine, while another 6 percent say they will only get a vaccine “if required,” and an additional 15 percent intend to “wait and see.”

Those three categories of vaccine hesitancy include more than 40 percent of Republicans. Some 20 percent of Republicans put themselves in the “definitely not” category. Some of these anti-vaxxers are saying they won’t get the vaccine but will forge vaccination cards, or are clucking online about how Dr. Anthony Fauci is a “quack.”

Some of those who have adopted a “wait and see” attitude say they are worried about the efficacy of the vaccines against a growing number of coronavirus variants popping up. In a White House briefing yesterday, I asked Fauci about this. “The vaccines that induce antibodies, the ones we use in this country, are really quite effective” in protecting against the “British” variant, Fauci told me. Against most other variants, the degree of protection varies, but the vaccines do tend to protect against the worst outcomes. The jury is still out, he said, on the effectiveness of U.S. vaccines on the new variant out of India. Either way, there is little doubt you’re better getting vaccinated than not—especially since getting vaccinated is one sure way to make sure fewer variants emerge.

“We’re going to keep at it,” President Biden said in his remarks on Tuesday. “And I think at the end of the day, most people will be convinced by the fact that their failure to get the vaccine may cause other people to get sick and maybe die.”

Biden sounds confident, and remains publicly convinced 70 percent of adults will get dosed with at least one shot by Independence Day. But, unlike the anti-vaxxers, he doesn’t deny reality: “We know we’re going to get to a place where the doubters exist or the people who just are—I don’t want to say ‘lazy’” to be vaccinated, he explained.

As the Kaiser poll makes clear, we are getting close to hitting that wall. Just as a matter of math, our best bet at reaching the president’s goal of 70 percent is to move people out of the “wait and see” hesitancy category. But there are many Americans who do not believe the vaccines work. They remain suspicious of the government providing the vaccines, or don’t believe they will help out their fellow human beings if they get vaccinated, or don’t care enough for their fellow human beings to do so.

That brings us back to the problem of the anti-democratic movement. More than 70 million people voted for former President Donald Trump in the last election—and a majority of them continue to believe Trump won the election—the “Big Lie” behind the January 6 insurrection.

The former president won’t even call himself “former.” He continues to refer to himself as just “the president.”

The Republicans in the House of Representatives are trying to throw Liz Cheney out of the GOP leadership because she won’t lie about Trump. This follows months of censures—not to mention booing and heckling—from state parties directed at Republicans who dared to criticize Trump after January 6.

Meanwhile, on the basis of the GOP’s lies about the election, Republican-controlled state legislatures are pursuing dozens of bills to restrict voting. Combined with gerrymandering, these laws could cement GOP control of Congress for years to come.

The GOP’s political lies are reinforced by conservative media on TV, radio, and online—the same media outlets reinforcing Republicans’ rejection of reality about public health.

You may know someone who refuses to be vaccinated, like my next-door neighbor. “You can’t make me get vaccinated,” he told me yesterday.

Or like one of my favorite in-laws, who constantly asks me “Why would I listen to Fauci?” A resident of rural mid-Missouri, he refuses to wear a mask and won’t social distance, so his wife does the shopping and runs other errands while he remains on a farm—unwittingly socially distant from anyone else.

To lower the hurdles to vaccination, the Biden administration has set up a new system to let Americans know of nearby vaccination sites. Simply text your zip code to 438829 and you’ll get a reply listing the 3 nearest locations of the 75,000 U.S. vaccination sites. But for most of the people who are still hesitant, ease of access isn’t what’s stopping them. “Why the hell would I want my government spying on me? What do I need to give them my zip code for?” my in-law asked me when I mentioned the new system. “Well, they already have it,” I explained. “How else would you get your mail?”

Some of the millions of Americans who won’t get vaccinated are among the millions who still support Donald Trump. The struggle is to get those people vaccinated, but that requires getting people educated. So, the Biden goal to get 70 percent of U.S. adults vaccinated against COVID is in large part the same struggle to get the U.S. vaccinated against Trump and Trumpism.

It is a struggle of fact vs. fiction, truth vs. lies, and democracy vs. the insurrectionists led by Donald Trump.

We cannot falter. We cannot rest.

Get vaccinated. Get educated.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: billybear; brainkareem; briankareem; briankarem; bulwark; dasvariants; election; fauxccine; nevertrump; nevertrumper; thebullmitt; thebulwark; vaccine; wereallgonnadiesir
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To: rexthecat

do you still have to abide by six foot boundaries, and wear a mask? Isolate? No social groups?


21 posted on 05/09/2021 10:19:05 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: DoodleBob

This author has zero idea what he’s talking about and spent many paragraphs writing about it.


22 posted on 05/09/2021 10:23:06 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: AZJeep

India started their jabs in November. They are now at the 6 month mark. Notice the huge spike in “new cases”

It will be a fun US summer.


23 posted on 05/09/2021 10:23:36 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: DoodleBob

I already know that they don’t give a fig about my life! So... JUST EXACTLY what is this stuff they seem SO determined to inject into me?


24 posted on 05/09/2021 10:26:38 PM PDT by The Right Edge (Staunch Trump Supporter AND PROUD to be!)
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To: DoodleBob

That’s true. It is reminiscent. Democrats will use whatever they can for propaganda to win elections. But what if the virus was an accidental, premature release from a lab helping a foreign government to develop a bio-weapon?

Some of us have been trained to know that a release of that kind of weapon is a possibility and prepare for survival if needed. Most people haven’t been trained but are participating in similar training now.

As for Democrats, many of them would try to teach everyone to save themselves, take credit for it and get more votes. But a few would participate in their political opposition’s discussions (ours) and try to prevent us from protecting ourselves. So would trained members of some foreign, expansionist governments.

There’s no feasible purpose for Democrats to design and spread the virus. There’s no feasible purpose for Democrats to talk everyone into wearing masks, physical distancing or taking vaccines except to claim credit and get more votes.

But foreign governments are developing bio-weapons, and some of those weapons are far more horrible than SARS-CoV-2. And after they strike, every lucid, logical person will try to use masks properly, keep their distance from others and take vaccines as soon as available. The survival chances of those who don’t train themselves to the extent of forming second nature habits in advance will be poor.


25 posted on 05/09/2021 10:36:24 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: DoodleBob

Stealing an election is as anti democratic as you can get!


26 posted on 05/09/2021 10:39:23 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: DoodleBob

Stupid piece to be flushed like a number 2.


27 posted on 05/10/2021 12:14:07 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: DoodleBob

The louder Satan’s children shout about injecting that rat poison “vaccine” into our bodies, the more people should run for the hills.

Only a fool will listen to this sick group of pedophiles, quacks, liars, and depopulation types.

I yearn to see the Divine Hand of God smite all of them straight to Hell forever.


28 posted on 05/10/2021 12:24:37 AM PDT by Prole ( )
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To: Prole

Well, as Christians, we would hope and pray these preaching the gospel of the Dark One immediately repent of their evil before the curtain call of life. Yearning to see folks sent to hell is pretty final and not something the Lord would want us asking Him for (even if it would be satisfying from an earthly perspective). Pray for their souls.


29 posted on 05/10/2021 12:45:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: Prole

The louder Satan’s children shout about injecting that rat poison “vaccine” into our bodies, the more people should run for the hills.

Only a fool will listen to this sick group of pedophiles, quacks, liars, and depopulation types.
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Well said. I am simply amazed at the amount of people rushing out for an experimental jab.....but as we are now a post Christian nation, it makes sense.


30 posted on 05/10/2021 12:57:09 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Prole
"The louder Satan’s children shout about injecting that rat poison “vaccine” into our bodies, the more people should run for the hills.

Only a fool will listen to this sick group of pedophiles, quacks, liars, and depopulation types.

I yearn to see the Divine Hand of God smite all of them straight to Hell forever.
"

You did an outstanding job of representing your group's perspective and desires.

31 posted on 05/10/2021 2:03:18 AM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: rexthecat; bagster

Those who don’t get vaccinated will help cull the herd
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Nice.
Eagerly looking forward to the ‘culling’ of the unvaccinated.

Well, you’re more honest than most of your kind.

In their ‘vaccine’ trial, Pfizer calculated that participants had a .93% chance of getting Covid-19. According to another vaxhole on FR, a person who gets Covid has a .65% chance of winding up “6 feet under”.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3957038/posts?page=185#185

Dr. Peter McCullough and others have come up with treatments for the vulnerable (aged, co-morbidities) that cut the death rate by 85%. (treating sick patients reduces death rate)

It looks like you’re going to need a bigger biowarfare agent.

Remember, all this is based on inflated numbers the CDC has cooked up. Recently, even the CDC admitted the ‘death rate’ they’ve been counting includes people dying with an average of 4 comorbidities, and only 5% of the 500K plus in the death tally ONLY had Covid. (hint: Most died from other causes).

What I’m saying is, to get the ‘culling’ of the non-vaccinated you’re really looking forward to, you may have to try to ‘help things along’ or you’ll never get there.


32 posted on 05/10/2021 2:51:13 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: rexthecat
"Those who don’t get vaccinated will help cull the herd."

Not going to happen. They have the cure!

Voodoo leaders concoct COVID-19 ‘cure’
https://www.nationnews.com/2020/05/25/voodoo-leaders-concoct-covid-19-cure/

33 posted on 05/10/2021 4:24:25 AM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: DoodleBob

Anti democracy? Or anti democrats?

Anti democracy is ruling by executive order and screwing with the election process to help your party win. But the Dems don’t see it that way. Blind fools.


34 posted on 05/10/2021 4:25:14 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: DoodleBob
I figure I'll consider this particular vaccine when the place ain't run by commies who have a vested interest in my demise, and a proper testing period has passed, and I trust the folks administering it, and I fear the virus sufficiently, and I learn it's not composed of anything objectionable.

Even though I've not had a vaccine in 50 years I've anticipated taking a couple, just not this particular "Joe juice" they're pushing so hard.

35 posted on 05/10/2021 4:46:43 AM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: DoodleBob

“we may not reach the vaccination level necessary for herd immunity”

As if that’s the only way to reach herd immunity. What an ass.


36 posted on 05/10/2021 4:55:57 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: DoodleBob

“The second crisis is the anti-democratic movement. We’ve been dealing with this for years, but it reached a dangerous new peak this year. Tens of millions of people believe lies about the 2020 election and continue to support the former president who instigated the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol.”

Sir, I would not accept a hum job from you, if you begged to do it for free, sir. GFYS, sir.


37 posted on 05/10/2021 4:57:44 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: DoodleBob

“Tens of millions of people believe lies about the 2020 election and continue to support the former president who instigated the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol”

The latest census data shows approx 5 million more votes than the number of people who claimed to have voted. Usually those numbers agree fairly closely. Sounds like these official govt numbers provides strong evidence of voter fraud. Maybe someone should look into that? DemocRATS wouldn’t object to investigations if the election was fair, would they?


38 posted on 05/10/2021 5:31:00 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: DoodleBob

Hope the vaccines work better than our “democracy”.


39 posted on 05/10/2021 5:50:06 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: rexthecat

“I know that I am safe. ... My family is safe.”

Sanctimony is fun, but virtue signaling doesn’t equal safety.

Although I expect that the spirit of my healthy cousin — dead in his recliner two days after the vaccine — appreciates your input. Perhaps HE is one who helped culling the herd.


40 posted on 05/10/2021 6:16:21 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence - Prof. Dean Alfange)
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