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Could mRNA COVID-19 vaccines be dangerous in the long-term?
https://www.jpost.com The Jerusalem Post ^ | NOVEMBER 17, 2020 | MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN

Posted on 04/06/2021 10:21:49 AM PDT by yelostar

November 2020

Israelis celebrated on Friday when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that the country had signed a deal with Pfizer Inc. to buy its novel coronavirus vaccine. But the fact remains that if Pfizer succeeds – or Moderna, with whom Israel also has a contract – these will be the first-ever messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines brought to market for human patients.

In order to receive Food and Drug Administration approval, the companies will have to prove there are no immediate or short-term negative health effects from taking the vaccines. But when the world begins inoculating itself with these completely new and revolutionary vaccines, it will know virtually nothing about their long-term effects.

“There is a race to get the public vaccinated, so we are willing to take more risks,” Tal Brosh, head of the Infectious Disease Unit at Samson Assuta Ashdod Hospital, told The Jerusalem Post.

But he acknowledged that there are unique and unknown risks to messenger RNA vaccines, including local and systemic inflammatory responses that could lead to autoimmune conditions.

An article published by the National Center for Biotechnology Information, a division of the National Institutes of Health, said other risks include the bio-distribution and persistence of the induced immunogen expression; possible development of auto-reactive antibodies; and toxic effects of any non-native nucleotides and delivery system components.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: autoimmune; chinavirusvaccine; info; longtermrisks; mrna; oldnews; sideeffects; unknownrisks
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To: yelostar

Ahhhh….you THINK????


21 posted on 04/06/2021 10:47:57 AM PDT by griffin
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To: yelostar

When the next corona virus is released then we will know. I recovered just fine and will not get this shot.


22 posted on 04/06/2021 10:48:27 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: libh8er

You are arguing with Q-bots.

There are, it appears to me, two for,s of fear porn regarding this virus. 1. It is worse than the Black Death. 2. The vaccine is worse than the Black Death.

I do not k ow how to discuss things with ideologues.


23 posted on 04/06/2021 10:50:14 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Hillary Clinton =The Pig In A Pantsuit (The PIAPS))
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To: Fai Mao

And we are arguing with sheep


24 posted on 04/06/2021 10:51:59 AM PDT by roving
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To: yelostar

AstraZeneca is not an mRNA vax? Did not know that.

And

“But when asked if she would take the vaccine right away, she responded: “I won’t be taking it immediately – probably not for at least the coming year,” she told the Post. “We have to wait and see whether it really works.””

Ditto.


25 posted on 04/06/2021 10:54:45 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: yelostar

Yes they might be dangerous long term but guess what?

So can COVID!!!!! Even if you survive it!


26 posted on 04/06/2021 10:55:41 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: libh8er

So why does the shot have fetal tissue secured from Planned Infanticide by the FDA, why the formaldehyde - a known carcinogen and why the aluminum- a known driver of cognitive malfunction? Where’s the anti-virus component? Oh that’s right the actual virus has NOT been identified yet has it? It’s just a shot of poison you’re getting. Why the massive global rush? Why is a 99.7% chance of survival via your own immune system suddenly a problem? Get your will in order or wake up.


27 posted on 04/06/2021 10:56:54 AM PDT by Gillny
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To: roving

I should say, I have, much to my wife’s consternation, stopped wearing a mask in public. Either the vaccine works and the mask isn’t needed or I can get sick and die. I refuse to cower like a frightened animal.


28 posted on 04/06/2021 10:57:58 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Hillary Clinton =The Pig In A Pantsuit (The PIAPS))
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To: yelostar

1.http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=241961
This study was released 2/24/21
2.https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765
Quote:
“This is is a very large post-EUA vaccine study in Israel, which has been wildly stabbing people now for a few months. And it contains a very sobering set of statistics if you read the appendix.

It’s also notable what’s not included.”


29 posted on 04/06/2021 10:58:28 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa paalle)
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To: Ken H
”God couldn’t even sink this ship”


”After the second shot, I feel fine”


“Peace in our time!”


30 posted on 04/06/2021 10:59:36 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: arkfreepdom

I’m completely immune without your poison. Never skipped a beat. Continued to socialize, prohibition style restaurants and bars had parties. Kids came home from college with their friends. Worked out in gym, teach school. Nothing. But I will never take your poison. Natural evolutionary immunity.


31 posted on 04/06/2021 10:59:37 AM PDT by krug
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To: libh8er

“The mRNA once inside the body lasts only 2 or 3 days at most and it’s only job is to artificially create the spike proteins found on the virus.”

So, exactly how do you know what damage might be caused in 2 to 3 days — or even 1 hour?

Apparently, the Israelites think differently,

“But he acknowledged that there are unique and unknown risks to messenger RNA vaccines, including local and systemic inflammatory responses that could lead to autoimmune conditions.”


32 posted on 04/06/2021 11:00:19 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: yelostar
autoimmune conditions

I am not a specialist but it seems to me that is exactly what these mRNA vaccines do. Create an auto-immune type of condition, that causes the body to create a protein that looks like CV19 in order for another biological process to attack it.

33 posted on 04/06/2021 11:00:41 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: arkfreepdom

It is a recent treatment.

Covid peaked long ago.

It will take 18 mos to 3 years for the autoimmune diseases to show. By then, people won’t associate them with the covid treatment.

People will be dependent on drugs to cope.

Big Pharma will have millions of new customers.

Customers are totally screwed

You.cannot reverse the mRNA.


34 posted on 04/06/2021 11:01:16 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You.cannot reverse the mRNA.

Nope. You can't. Once it is inside you, all you can do is ride it out. People are fighting each other to get it put in them.

35 posted on 04/06/2021 11:05:22 AM PDT by sport
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To: arkfreepdom

We will find out many things, but we cannot be sure it has wiped out covid at all. We had very few new cases last summer without a vaccine and it came roaring back in the fall/winter. What we are seeing now may just be “seasonal” like last summer. Nobody knows how long these vaccines may be effective - I suspect all the talk about booster shots and the fact that they require 2-shots spaced 4 weeks apart suggest that they know that the efficacy, if any, is short lived. It does seem that they prevent, in most cases, serious illness resulting from infection and that is a good thing. If they don’t stop the spread of disease, helping people from serious illness is good and it will spread a natural immunity among those who do catch it. But I wonder if the vaccines aren’t just buying time on a hope and prayer that the virus won’t mutate further, or will actually encourage more dangerous strains to “escape”.


36 posted on 04/06/2021 11:06:52 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: krug

It’ll be very interesting to see what happens in a year comparing those who got the jab versus those who didn’t.


37 posted on 04/06/2021 11:17:46 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Can you explain the difference between what you just said and the Johnson adenovirus thing?

The objective of both vaccines (Pfizer/ J&J) is to create spike proteins inside the recipient. It's how they do it that's different.

Pfizer uses mRNA which is like a recipe book containing the recipe for the spike protein. This is injected directly into the recipient. As I said earlier it's a short lived recipe book. It enters the cells, delivers the recipe and disintegrates within 72 hours. It does not "interfere" with the cell's DNA as the scaremongers have been saying.

J&J uses a more traditional method. Here the 'recipe' is loaded into the DNA of an unrelated virus (called adenovirus 26). This virus has been 'neutered' so it doesn't replicate or cause any harm. It simply acts as a carrier. The carrier virus carrying the recipe enters a cell and heads straight for the nucleus where the genetic machinery is. The host cell starts making spike proteins some of which sprout on its surface. The immune system which is constantly surveying the body for suspicious or unknown proteins see these and gets into action. The rest is the same.

The key difference is, with pfizer you are injecting the recipe directly into the cells. With J&J you are letting an unrelated virus act as the delivery man to carry the recipe inside the cells. The pfizer/mRNA for obvious reasons is more efficient -- and also more effective at protecting against covid (93% vs ~70% )

38 posted on 04/06/2021 11:18:09 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: yelostar

Keep in mind that the vaccine industry is evil

They could give a flying crap about your health

Unfortunately the entire medical establishment buys into the “vaccine theory”

Because people do not understand medicine or human biology or pathogen’s they also like sheep go to the slaughter because of this

Why is there a 10 billion Dollar fund pay off all the poor people whose lives have been ruined whose children have been killed and who have otherwise been destroyed by the do-gooders from hell????

Why do PhD’s and doctors with 30 and 40 years of epidemiology who vociferously speak out against this gets silenced?

Boys and girls this is been going on a very very very long time and it’s not even close to here with this COVID-19 nonsense

As a matter of fact I think we can all see now that this entire COVID-19 hoax was not only a global communist scam to try to control people and usher in the great reset but was also just a Giants game to scare the crap out of people and get them to take these experimental mRNA vaccines

Believe what you want in this world but remember this clear paradigm

Everything in life involves risk and reward


39 posted on 04/06/2021 11:19:47 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Fraud !!! Now we’re off the TRUMP TRAIN and on the Swamp express to communist hell !! TRUTH! )
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To: monkeyshine

I’ve had hundreds of covid visits in hospital both on covid floor and covid icu. I recommend vaccination but wouldn’t require. Not a bit worried about the longterm risk of the shot.
I seriously doubt any of the theories but I guess we will see.


40 posted on 04/06/2021 11:23:01 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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