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The Multibillion-Dollar Question: How Long Do COVID Vaccines Provide Protection?
Motley Fool ^ | 03/21/2021 | Keith Speights

Posted on 03/21/2021 6:48:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Americans have received more than 120 million COVID-19 vaccine doses. Another 2.4 million shots are administered each day. Within the next few months, every adult in the U.S. who wants to be vaccinated will be.

But there's a big unanswered question that affects anyone who receives a COVID-19 vaccine: How long will the vaccines provide protection against novel coronavirus infection? This isn't like the old TV game show The $64,000 Question, though. How long COVID-19 vaccines last is a multibillion-dollar question.

Billions of dollars on the line

Pfizer (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech (NASDAQ: BNTX) were the first to win U.S. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for their COVID-19 vaccine, BNT162b2. In February, Pfizer estimated that the vaccine would generate sales of around $15 billion this year based on supply deals in place at that time.

However, since then the two companies have received additional orders for BNT162b2 -- 100 million more doses for the U.S. and 200 million additional doses for the European Union. These deals should boost BNT162b2 sales above $20 billion in 2021.

Moderna (NASDAQ: MRNA) won EUA for its COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA-1273, soon after Pfizer and BioNTech. The biotech expects to generate $18.4 billion in sales this year from the vaccine.

Johnson & Johnson (NYSE: JNJ) secured EUA for its single-dose COVID-19 vaccine in late February. The healthcare giant is selling the vaccine at cost during the pandemic for around $10 per dose. J&J hopes to supply at least 1 billion doses of its vaccine this year. Assuming it achieves that goal, the company will make roughly $10 billion in sales.

These three vaccines alone could together make well over $48 billion this year. And we haven't included the sales for COVID-19 vaccines from AstraZeneca (NASDAQ: AZN) and Novavax (NASDAQ: NVAX), both of which could win U.S. EUA

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: chinavirusvaccine; covd19; immunity; info; myrddin; vaccines
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To: Deaf Smith

It is not Labeled as a vaccine.


What is it labeled as?

Everything I’ve seen/read has these experimental jabs labeled as vaccines.


21 posted on 03/21/2021 8:21:24 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Myrddin; metmom; ransomnote; SecAmndmt

Exactly what Dr Lee Merrit was warning us, about this, months ago.


22 posted on 03/21/2021 8:24:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SeekAndFind

Much longer than with NO vaccine.


23 posted on 03/21/2021 8:32:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have extremely severe consequences.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

What percentage of vaccinated have got infected versus un-vaccinated? WHen 60 million are already vaccinated, there will be 0.001% getting infected by breathing in too close to someone infected. DO not make love to anyone who is not tested and vaccinated.


24 posted on 03/21/2021 8:35:42 PM PDT by entropy12 (Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have extremely severe consequences.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jane Long; Myrddin; metmom; ransomnote; SecAmndmt

Possibly a trick question.

mRNA has never worked in the 15 years since it was introduced. They tried to make an HIV vaccine with it, a vax for Help C, Varicella and other Corona Viruses.

They were able to get 100% of the lab animals to produce antibodies, but in the next stage of the animal trials, all the lab animals (cats) died. It’s believe their bodies overproduced the intended aniti-body.

The two Covid shots available now do not claim to stop you from becoming ill with Covd, nor is it intended to stop you from spreading it to others.

Moderna and PFizer claim their vaccines are 95% effective. They don’t mean it’s effective in their stated purpose - reducing the severity of Covid-19 if you get it.

The ‘95% effective’ claim means that, in their large-scale human trials, which only lasted a few months (so the Covid shots are not FDA approved, that takes rigorous testing and more time) 95% of the trial subjects developed anti-bodies to a different type of Coronavirus (they don’t have a sample of the one that causes Covid to use for vax development).

However, the mRNA technology has failed to succeed beyond producing anti-bodies. All the animal ins in mRNA trials conducted in 2005 and 2012 died, even though all had antibodies.

There is a piece missing in the technology. They haven’t been able to figure out how to translate those anti-bodies into curing disease. The Covid mRNA vaccines are the first time the technology has been tried on people.

The spike protein that the mRNA vaccines produce in the Covid shots is not specific to Corona virus. It can be produced by exposure to other illnesses and types of corona virus. So most of us will have already developed the protein in previous illnesses.

Moderna/Pfizer have not released the rest of their data. They held a lot back at the start of the adminsitration of their shot. They have released chunks of it slowly.

The mRNA Covid shots have not gone through enough testing to answer questions about it’s true efficacy (e.g., how long protection would last). A British physician who is the editor of a medical publication has analyzed the prelminatry data released thus far and his calculations indicate the Pfizer/Moderna shots may be 19.5% effective.

For FDA approval, the shots would have to be at least 30% effective in creating resistance to infection.

The problem is, the preliminary data is based on PCR testing which, according to it’s inventor, does not indicate whether someone is actually sick or not. So claiming it is 19% is not valid either because they didn’t use a test that delineated who was sick and who was not. The PCR test has around a 90% false positive level.

So promotional materials and those specifying success rates and duration of “protection” lack a valid scientific basis upon which to make their assertions.

Links to articles and videos which support what I’ve posted are available at the following link:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3943889/posts


25 posted on 03/21/2021 8:54:50 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Myrddin

Lovely.


26 posted on 03/21/2021 9:00:57 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: ransomnote

Thanks for the info.

We could avoid all this simply by “vaccinating” the population with oral vit D3, up to vit D blood levels of 75 ng/mL, offer everyone 30 mg/day chelated zinc, quercetin during flu season, a quality multivitamin, and maybe 2000 mg vitamin C.

There’s no need for a vaccine.


27 posted on 03/21/2021 9:23:30 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: ransomnote
I left out one other problem created by having the antibody to the spike protein circulating in the blood. That is Antibody Dependent Enhancement. In this complication, a virus particle forms a complex with the spike protein antibody. The complex is more capable of infecting the host cells than the virus particle alone. Absent ADE, the virus might well have mutated enough to be less infectious than before.

The indiscriminate manner that the "vaccine" mRNA capsules can infect host cells becomes a problem when they infect nerve and brain tissue. The PEG and lipid capsules on both Moderna and Pfizer mRNA can pass into the brain. Observed consequences mimic multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's and other neuro degenerative diseases. Some of these victims have already provided Youtube videos citing the impact.

28 posted on 03/21/2021 9:51:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

What’s your source regarding all the dead mice?

I am a participant in the Moderna study and the Dr. during my first visit and shot in September discussed the earlier testing involving animals. Of those receiving the vaccine, none died. The animal testing started very early, I believe it was March or latest April as they had the mRNA needed figured out within days of the earliest publication of the COVID-19 genetic information. The Dr. explained how mice were given the “vaccine” or placebo. None in the vaccinated group died after intentional infection with COVID-19.


29 posted on 03/21/2021 10:10:27 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the Michigan Medicine COVID-19 Vaccination Program contacting you...blah, blah, blah

(message on my iphone yesterday)

FUMichigan and shove that Vaxx in WRETCHED HITLER’S NECK.

You have entered a response that the system does not recognize. Reply Yes or No.

ROFL
MAO


30 posted on 03/21/2021 10:18:47 PM PDT by PGalt (past peak civilization?)
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To: Lurkinanloomin; All

My wife got the flu after the first Pfizer shot. I don’t believe in flu shots so I don’t need to consider vaccination expiration dates.


31 posted on 03/21/2021 10:56:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: HotHunt
I'm going to pass on this one too.

Me too!
32 posted on 03/21/2021 11:19:20 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jane Long
The FDA has not given approval of these "vaccines".

They have given a emergency use directive for therapy use.

33 posted on 03/22/2021 2:36:33 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: ransomnote

We know the vaccines don’t do what they want them to do and it is still highly experimental. The question for me is Does Natural Immunity that about 30% of the population enjoys, last Forever?? I think it does, mainly because when my daughter gave it to me, I barely got a head cold out of it, very mild to almost no symptoms, but I gave it to my wife who got real sick. My body already knew the formula when I got the virus, and it will remember the formula until I die. I would assume my Wife and daughter.... would all have immunity now also, and it will be forever???


34 posted on 03/22/2021 6:20:34 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Deaf Smith; ransomnote; metmom

The FDA has not given approval of these “vaccines”.
They have given a emergency use directive for therapy use.


Yes, very well aware....as I have been cautioning about these experimental, unproven agents, for months.

But, again, they (US Gov) ARE calling them vaccines.

You said... “‘It is not Labeled as a vaccine.”

Every ad/promotion for these shots, from FedGov on down to County gov, are calling these shots “vaccines”, from all that I have seen.

There is a reason they are calling them vaccines. To protect the drug cos making these shots. Drug co/vax makers have total immunity, from liability of ANY adverse effects, from these “vaccines”, under a 2005 law, that was invoked.

You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html


35 posted on 03/22/2021 7:34:58 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: LibertyOh
It's Monday morning. I'm at work, so I don't have lots of time to research this for you. Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus

I'll have more time after work today to add paper citations.

36 posted on 03/22/2021 7:45:58 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: SeekAndFind

The Vaccines confer no immunity whatsoever.


37 posted on 03/22/2021 8:29:43 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page)
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To: Myrddin

The “spike protien” is the mechanism for infection of human cells by COVID-19. Until the virus mutates to the point it has another mechanism to infect cells, the vaccine should provide protection regardless of other mutations.

I had the Pfizer poke. No side effects to date. At my location, they had 10 vaccination booths. One Moderna, nine Pfizer. It was the best run Government process I’d ever seen. I told my wife, someone was smart enough to let the Nurses take charge.


38 posted on 03/22/2021 8:40:26 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: LibertyOh

Who ran this ModeRNA study you were a part of? Which location?

Just curious if we can find the studies your doc based his statements on.

TIA.


39 posted on 03/22/2021 8:44:53 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

Moderna Phase 3 study is being run by Synexis. For animal testing results start here:

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-moderna-investigational-covid-19-vaccine-shows-promise-mouse-studies


40 posted on 03/22/2021 9:17:31 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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