Pardon me for asking a stupid question ...

FR | 3/6/21 | Privileged, heli-pad equipped Yacht owner, Sidebar Moderator

[Sidebar Moderator]

Excuse me if this is a stupid question, but if QAnon is such an existential threat to our republic, as the media and federal law enforcement agencies would have us believe, why haven't they captured or neutralized this threat? After all, we're not talking about cave-hopping, Tora-Bora dwelling Jihadis. The alleged threat isn't emanating from some faraway land. Supposedly, this group is home grown and the US government, we are also led to believe, is keeping close tabs on them. Yet, with the plethora of mind-bogglingly sophisticated tracking and surveillance technology at their disposal, are we supposed to believe the government is helpless against this seemingly almighty foe? Isn't it obvious by now that this whole thing is a crock of BS? There, I said it.

Your thoughts?

[Magnatron]

You sound very much like some of the anti-Trumpers on this site before the election in 2016

No, I was originally a Rand Paul supporter in the primaries, then I actively campaigned for Trump for the general election. So no, I'm not an anti-Trumper...

I'm anti-lunatic.

You crazy people have done more damage to Trump and the conservative Republican cause than the Lincoln Project nitwits, Sasse, Cheney, Romney, Kinzinger, and the Democrats combined. You've given cause to those who want to label conservatives as asylum patients who need to be oppressed, arrested, and marginalized. The media and the left keep talking about you for a reason. They're not afraid of you. They want everyone else to be afraid of conservatives for supposedly being part of your cult.

This isn't about free speech on Free Republic. There are plenty of conspiracy sites where you can log in and compete for your "I'm in" moment, where everyone will agree with you and chant your silly nonsense. This is about keeping this site from becoming another of those sites, but more importantly, getting you off the back of the conservative movement so that we can continue what Trump started into the future.

What you and your kind are doing is not -- repeat -- not helping the conservative cause, no matter what intentions you think you might have.

[mkmensinger]

“I think Q followers are mainly good people, patriotic people, caring people.”
Well, thanks for that, at least. And they’re not stupid people (at least for the most part). As for the first part. I think that NSA and military intelligence are in fact mostly “white hats”, and CIA, FBI et al are, sadly, dominated by less well-intentioned people.
I’ve just seen too many Q “proofs” to think Q is a LARP or tin foil hat person. Every single person who has claimed to be Q has failed a simple test: post something on 4 or 8 chan, or 7kun, using Q’s trip codes and simply post their name or screen name. Not a single one has done it yet. There have also been over 3 dozen occasions when Q posted seconds before a POTUS tweet. How many times can that happen and still be called a coincidence? There have been drops featuring photos from inside the Presidential motorcade and current photos from inside AF1, and a number of other proofs. Q is real, but not God.

[greeneyes]

QAnon is not an existential threat to our republic, as the lying media and federal law enforcement agencies would have us believe. The estabishment are just doing their usual lying and fear mongering to try and justify their crazy actions, and get people to do what they want them to do.

First, there is no QAnon. There was someone posting as Q on the Chans and then 8Kun. And there are lots of people posting on those sites known only as Anons. All sorts of Anons post there good, bad, and ugly.

The Q operation seemed to me to be a PSYOPs. Possibly a military type PSYOPs. The purpose seemed to me, to be to improve morale of those supporting DJT and keep them from giving up. It also seemed to ask questions to get people to research and determine the answers to those questions for themselves. To determine the real story behind the crap going on in the world in general and the USA in particular.

Those answers, rarely agreed with the Lying LSM narrative. And since people did their own research, they were less inclined to fall for the LSM story.

There was an incredible turnout for the 2020 election, and POTUS DJT had an enormous gain in votes for him. This pretty much achieved the purpose-as was apparent by the resignation of Code Monkey as the Administrator of 8Kun-announced right around election time and a post that said something about successfully bringing the ship home to port.

Politicians, do fear people paying enough attention, and willing to do the research to find out what’s really going on, and exposing them and their schemes. LSM is just another arm of the establishment-not really up to what investigative journalism is supposed to be.

The establishment fears DJT and his supporters, those who followed the Q postings, and those who didn’t. So all people who support DJT are targets for these people who think they are elite, and should be ruling over the US citizens, instead of serving the people.

They’ll Alinsky the easy ones first, but make no mistake, they are after ALL of the supporters of DJT—don’t let them succeed in taking down ANY. Tell the LSM to take their conspiracy theory about Qanon, Christians, and White people and stick it where the sun don’t shine.

Just my 2 cents, which is worth about 98% less than it used to be. 😉

[ladyjane]

Remember when Trump spoke of the “Tippy Top” White House. Clearly there was a connection.

[EasySt]

“ If Q is for real and his rabbit droppings are not the fever dreams of a pig farmer, but real super spy squirrel goodies, as Q followers believe...”

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As Q “followers” believe, eh? Let me tell you what THIS one thinks about that.

A very, very few of Q’s posts are real super spy squirrel goodies.

Most are questions. A great many are disinformation.
Some are decent proofs that Q is somehow close to DJT
on certain occasions.

I believe, among other things, that Q was a training op for the
interested, engaged, truth seeking public, to teach ordinary people
how to differentiate between Conspiracy Facts, Conspiracy Theories,
and Conspiracy BS.

Between Fake News and Real News.

He said disinformation was necessary.
I think teaching/training was just one of the reasons.

We succeed at learning this skill to various degrees as individuals.

But it was training, for sure.

(I can hear the detractors screaming indoctrination, already, when in fact
there was more than a little deprogramming going on there instead.)

~Easy

[EasySt]

No, you didn’t need the sarcasm tag with me at all, Stylin.
Your post was just a handy place for me to add my thoughts.

Thank you for yours!

Enigo54 is missed, Please give him my FReegards as well... ;-)

~Easy

[GOPJ]

They speak of sinister, 'elaborate terrorist plots', well beyond the planning stage, hatched by newly activated sleeper cells consisting of armed and dangerous insurgents hellbent on toppling the government. That's a lot more than just barroom banter. If true, it would constitute an eminent threat, based on actionable Intel. I strongly suggest it's fake news. If not, why no arrests?

I think you're right. What's happening doesn't make sense. What they're saying doesn't fit the facts. I suspect they know that... so what's really happening? What benefit is there to painting QAnon as powerful and dangerous.

[Freedom56v2]

No, I was originally a Rand Paul supporter in the primaries, then I actively campaigned for Trump for the general election. So no, I’m not an anti-Trumper...

I’m anti-lunatic.

You crazy people have done more damage to Trump and the conservative Republican cause than the Lincoln Project nitwits, Sasse, Cheney, Romney, Kinzinger, and the Democrats combined. You’ve given cause to those who want to label conservatives as asylum patients who need to be oppressed, arrested, and marginalized. The media and the left keep talking about you for a reason. They’re not afraid of you. They want everyone else to be afraid of conservatives for supposedly being part of your cult.

This isn’t about free speech on Free Republic. There are plenty of conspiracy sites where you can log in and compete for your “I’m in” moment, where everyone will agree with you and chant your silly nonsense. This is about keeping this site from becoming another of those sites, but more importantly, getting you off the back of the conservative movement so that we can continue what Trump started into the future.

What you and your kind are doing is not — repeat — not helping the conservative cause, no matter what intentions you think you might have.

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Read much?

What I said: You sound very much like some of the anti-Trumpers on this site before the election in 2016—when FR was Cruz country, and Cruz supporters (in the majority at that time) were saying very similar things about people who believed in Trump and thought they would besmirch the site——

Sooo I did not assume what your positions were in 2016—I merely pointed out that you SOUND LIKE one of the an anti-Trumpers...who harassed those of us supporting Trump—often to the point of being suspended from the site...

You certainly have made a lot of assumptions about me and other posters here...

Among other things, you said “you crazy people” and “your kind” Frankly, if anyone’s post sounds crazy or lunatic, it is yours. Lotta nerve! Since this is not your site, perhaps you should go start one where you can control what is posted.

And BTW, seems to me that long before the media latched on to Q, they were saying conservatives were white supremacist’s, Trump supporting groups like Oath Keepers etc. were vilified as was Trump himself..So marginalizing conservatives has been a constant endeavor—We were deplorables in 2016. I would add that anyone following closely knows that majority of the problems on Jan 6 resulted from professional paid instigators—not Q and non-Q Trump supporters.

For the record, I NEVER said if I supported Q...I often use the position of the media as an indicator of what is the best position—if media hates Q, I am going to look into Q positions...* Media loves masks and vaccines? Eh, I am going to do research and my first instinct is to take the opposing position.

However, my point was addressing your post...I just don’t like (as you say) “you folks’” and “your kind’s” attitude—which is insulting, anti-Free Speech and intolerant. Your post validated my observations. And again, I am glad this is not your site.

*They believe the election was stolen and hope Trump can return as President...Frankly, I have no problem with that!

[RitaOK]

Wha’ hoppin’ to ya’? A bunch of the girls were going to propose, but you’re MIA.

[EasySt]

”Re: 95% of the country never even heard of Q until two months ago. bagster: "Nice made up number."

“zeestephen: What is the real number? Thanks in advance for providing a link to your source.”

Here you go:

In a Feb. 18-March 2 survey, (2020) about a quarter (23%) of U.S. adults said they had heard “a lot” or “a little” about QAnon. By September, that number had increased to 47%. At the same time, though, very few Americans have heard a lot about it: 9% as of September, up from 3% in February.

(^Click^to^go^to^the^Study at...)

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/16/5-facts-about-the-qanon-conspiracy-theories/

~Easy

[EasySt]

Search for the word “ adrenochrome “ or adrenal, or adren
in any of the Q Post collection sites., say Qanon.pub, for example.

You will get zero hits.

Who do you suppose that emphasis came from, and why,
if it didn’t come Q as you mistakenly assert?

Think.

~Easy

[Rusty0604]

Love your story.

[grey_whiskers]

Well done!

[Sidebar Moderator]

What benefit is there to painting QAnon as powerful and dangerous.

As some on this thread have noted, "QAnon" is the new Michigan militia, the new Vast, Right Wing Conspiracy, a useful/convenient construct to tar the regime's entire opposition as dangerous domestic terrorists.

[Sidebar Moderator]

You nailed it perfectly. Well said. Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for the feedback.

[greeneyes]

👍You are welcome.

[mkmensinger]

“Remember when Trump spoke of the “Tippy Top” White House. Clearly there was a connection.”

Yes! That’s my very favorite Q proof. A week earlier, one of the Anons asked Q to prove him or herself by getting Pres. Trump to use the words “Tippy Top”. Sure enough, during a speech at the White House Easter Egg Roll, he said those very words. I believe it was 2018.

[EasySt]

That one didn’t do it for me, as there was the first Anon request
that the President say Tip Top,

That one can be found.

There was in the same discussion another Anon that said, no, have
him say Tippy Top, instead. That 2nd post could never be found, though
there was a post that was inexplicably missing.

That’s when I stopped lurking in Ransomnote’s thread and enlisted
help in proving that 2nd post that many of us were sure we had seen,
actually existed. That debate lasted more than a day, as I recall.
The missing “No, make it Tippy Top instead” post was never found.

In any case, it was quite a bit more than just a week later, that the
President said both of those things, but those of us that looked into it
discovered that he had been known to use those phrases. Easter
was not the first time. Too easy, to call for something he’s already
been known to say.

I found the whole North Korea peace thing much more convincing,
myself. We got to appreciate that unfolding before anyone else, and
of course, all the few second timing differences where Q posted, a mere
moment before POTUS Tweeted.

That’s hard even when you have both phones in front of you.
Dozens of times? Very nice trick.

Then the timelines and the perps unfolding as described?

Again and again?

Vindication.

~Easy

[mkmensinger]

Thank you, Easy.

[CatHerd]

“Tip top” and “tippy top” are phrases Trump has often said.

See here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLwounEVbs