Posted on 02/11/2021 9:14:19 PM PST by sushiman
Just bought a new Windows 10 PC for downstairs where I am much of the day but am still using a 6 year old Dell Windows 7 with IE upstairs in the evening . Twitter and other sites no longer support IE so I would like your advice re: a new browser . Thanks in advance .
“Now I’m running Brave with Ad Block and Ghostery”
Brave has addons?
I am in the middle of the restoration of a car that came off the assembly line on November 8, 1941... a 42 Cadillac. The car is 80 years old and has never had any major engine work done and still runs fine even on unleaded gas, although I use an additive.
I still have the first IBM PC Clone that I put together along with licensed copies of Word Perfect, Lotus 123, and others running under the latest version on Microsoft DOS 6.22.
Many people these days have no appreciation for equipment of any kind from earlier times. I find that rather sad. BUt I have no appreciation for them either so I guess that we are even.
Help desks and the like are always asking such questions: Why is such basic information not more-plainly displayed* by my computer?
Regards,
*Where I can't possibly not see it?
NX with FEA analysis, CAM, reverse engineering, and surfacing, networked in with a XP machine driving a CMM. And Solitaire.
I still have the first IBM PC Clone that I put together along with licensed copies of Word Perfect, Lotus 123, and others running under the latest version on Microsoft DOS 6.22.
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Still have an Apple //e, and Apple //c, and Apple //gs as well as an Atari 1040ST with a Mac Rom cartridge.
Still play with them sometimes.
NX with FEA analysis, CAM, reverse engineering, and surfacing, networked in with a XP machine driving a CMM. And Solitaire.
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But none of the engineering /3D or content creation software I use.
For me, its windows 10 or nothing (even MacOS ports are few and far between)
brave browser
I have had problems with Winoze 7 on my old desktop more related to programs which are no longer compatible.
Firefox still works.
However I currently run a mix of Linux Mint 20. and windoze 8.1 on all my computers.
Mostly dual boot.
Windoze 8.1 is only used for a graphix program, some disk management programs and turbotax
I did keep an old hard drive win7 JIC I need something.
Everything I run works in Linux with a few exceptions.
You can download a bootable disk so you can test it on your machine without installing it.
Research Linux Mint
Dave
Come on Windows 7 is dead. 11 years old. Get real its not a thing anymore step into the present. Most people don’t even own cars that old.
[PS I am a network engineer]
I do.. I have a 1999 Chev Camaro SS!!!
I never purchased any Apple computers but I have a variety of others from the same time period. I have some earlier Atari computers including an Atari 800 with an 810 disc drive that still works and a lot of software.
Thanks for that info- I’ll check that out- i wanna get rid of firefox, but don’t liek all the google dependent/infused alternative browsers
Brave with DuckDuckGo as the default search engine.
Opera (or Opera based) was bought by some CHICOM entity a while back - AVOID.
Mozilla has bleated out Anti-Trumper, censorship noises recently - AVOID.
Oh horrors. The buggiest Windows ever put out.
It's been over a year since Win7 had any security patches (fixes for vulnerabilities). In that time, hundreds of Win10 vulnerabilities have been patched in the monthly Windows Updates. Every month, experienced hackers around the world reverse-engineer the monthly updates for Win10, knowing that the same vulnerability probably exists in Win7 -- and Win7 didn't get the patches, so it is still vulnerable.
In other words, every month, Windows flaws that exist in Win7, get patched for Win10 but not Win7, and the Bad Guys learn what they are.
Now all that said, if you ONLY EVER go to FreeRepublic and a reputable email provider's site, and NEVER click on a link on FR that takes you anywhere else, chances are you're pretty safe, browsing-wise. But if you open a malware email, or click on a bad link in an email, your Win7 computer is much more likely to get infected, than if it was Win10.
Make sense?
Do you have an item #? That link just took me to a generic eBay page. Just asking because it can be very tedious to find a good seller that will communicate with you, maybe throw in an extra for a few $$ more, not load pirated software, etc.
Actually, what I really need right now is a cheap netbook / small laptop for my Mom so she can do Zoom meetings & watch online church services while in rehab. (NO visitors allowed, except visits through an outside window. Like that’s fun in windy 17 deg. temps in February!) I have a Lenovo I use myself — nice machine and got it on eBay for $100, but it took two trips back to Lenovo to get the darn thing straightened out, including getting the camera working.
Probably the best option for a non-power user is to buy a used Dell PC that has Windows 10 already on it. You can get those for $30-$50 at most large city recycling places. That is where you go and do a local pickup, avoiding a $25-$30 shipping charge. Paying $100 to upgrade an older PC to upgrade to Windows 10 makes no sense.
“Get Unbutu.”
Did it.
My HP Compaq 8710w laptop was flagging under the sprawl of Win10.
I FINALLY took the plunge, and put Ubuntu 20 on it.
Did just a couple hours of reading in advance — details how best to size partitions, etc and kept that open on my phone while I was working.
Got that up and running then went to the website for the Brave browser and followed their step-by-step instructions to install Brave. Honestly, as a LINUX noob, just sort of blindly keying in console instructions without fully knowing what you’re telling your computer to do does feel like a leap of faith. But it was a good leap.
And, and, AND I had ZERO trouble using the Remmina remote desktop client to hit my Office Windows machine, so BIG joy, there. AND I installed the Zoom client and it runs A-OK.
TRIFECTA!
My ONLY glitch was because the LINUX kernel reved from 5.4 to 5.8 and NVIDIA didn’t play along, so my video didn’t work after the upgrade.
BUT, tapping the SHIFT key at boot opens a menu where you can tell LINUX to boot using the old kernel, which it DOESN’T nuke during the upgrade process, so it’s still there and usable; and Yes, as a matter of fact this hairy eyeball IS for you, Mister Gates.
So, I just expressly directed my machine to boot into the 5.4 kernel for a couple of weeks until the argument between NVIDIA and the 5.8 kernel got patched up. ZERO loss of productivity, and nothing was at all hampered at the desktop level.
After the patch, even NVIDIA is happy, now. JOY!
So, yeah — I guess maybe set up a dual boot if you’re not sure, but I am NOT Mr. ComSci and I was able to pull it off, and my ancient laptop is happier than it’s been in a very long time; the cooling fan actually goes to low RPM much of the time, which it rarely ever did under Win10.
Well, aren’t you the snoot. I have machines all the way from DOS 5.0 through Win 10.
The DOS machine runs an old lab hardware board and software that would cost me a bundle to upgrade IF the manufacturer ever gets the Win 10 version off the ground. The intermediate version (worked all the way up to XP) is out of production.
Other such programs run fine on Win 7, and some of these hardware / software developers run into increasing problems with Microsoft with every new OS. Microsoft makes the whole endeavor very difficult, and increasingly costly. There is quite a bit of legacy software / hardware out there “making do” on older OS’s and machines for just those reasons.
Other than web browsing on some (increasingly more) sites, there is no app I have that requires more than Win XP (and possibly an old-ish release of that app) to do almost everything I need, and almost every “deficiency” I could work around easily if need be.
Office type programs (I now primarily use Libre Office)? Audio processing? Image processing / enhancement? Data acquisition? Graphics (art / drawing / CAD)? Etc.? 99% of all that I can do with a Win XP compatible app.
For the other 1%, and web browsing, my family has Win 10 machines, but that 1% most users would likely never need in a home or even small business setting, and for the web browsing, well, this thread mentions various alternative browsers that our posters seem to think work fine on Win 7. Over 95% of the work I do at home is on a Win 7 machine, with “my” Win 10 desktop used only when needed, as it doubles as my operational backup should the Win 7 machine fail. The Win 10 laptop does some work when I’m combining meals and work @ the kitchen table or on the road, but, again, it is overkill for the most part.
Outside of web browsing (addressed above), just what is it that most users would need more than a reasonably quick Win 7 machine with a SSD and compatible apps for? Or is everyone doing advanced CGI or artificial intelligence and I’m just out of the loop?
Oh, every OS and program on my machines is legit.
I wonder what your “poor relatives” would think of your attitude.
Win7 Ultimate/Chrome/2006 Dell Precision 690(upgraded hardware).
It works. Its stable. I like it. Thats it.
My Alienware 17 R5 1T/1T 32G/8G runs Win10/Chrome.
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