Posted on 01/19/2021 4:38:09 PM PST by rfreedom4u
Many people have stated that secession is illegal and not allowed as determined by the American Civil War. But is it really? Throughout the history of the United States our government has supported the independence/secession of states/territories/colonies from various other nations.
Haiti seceded from the French empire through a slave revolt. South Sudan broke from Sudan. Yugoslavia broke into several countries and later Kosovo seceded from Serbia. Czechoslovakia split into two countries. The Soviet split into quite a few countries. The UK left the European Union. And many others….
So why do people say secession is illegal in the United States? There’s nothing in the US Constitution that mentions secession. The Tenth Amendment states “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Using my logic this means that since the issue of secession is not given to the federal government it is reserved to the states or the people themselves to determine. I’ve read the constitution of my own state (Texas) and secession is not mentioned at all. This even furthers my belief that is should be determined by the people.
If I were to join a club and did not like what the club became, I would be well within my rights to quit that club. If I go to see a movie and don’t like it, I can walk out. So why would anyone believe that the United States is a “once you’re in you can’t leave” type of deal? When someone doesn’t like the state in which they live they are free to move to another state or even another country.
If secession/independence/splitting up is supported for other people in the world why is it not ok for citizens of the United States? And yes, I know that politicians are garbage and want to maintain their power and control. So please give me your opinion on whether it is legal or not and why you think that way? But please spare me the “if it’s broke, we don’t run away, we fix it” argument. At this point I am fairly certain that it is not repairable.
Bkmk
Lincoln proved it was illegal.
Texit?
Who decides legality or illegality? CornPop....Heels Up...Schumer?
If Texas votes to leave, I’m thinking they’re going to have some company. I’m just hoping that Georgia, even with the corrupt POSs we have as our elected representatives, goes with them.
The colonies did not secede from Great Britain. They were colonies, which meant that they were governed differently from the rest of Great Britain. All U.S. states are governed equally under the U.S. Constitution.
So, you’ll have no problem getting on a knee for what is coming?
This country was established as the result of a secession movement. The notion that secession is somehow “illegal” by any objective measure is ludicrous.
“I thought Texas specifically retained the right to secede when they joined the Union.”
If that were the case, Texas would have stayed out of the Union after the Civil War.
“Legal” is not a word that applies to secession.
Does not matter.
My son, the word ‘legal’ has nothing to do with evaluating whether or not an action is just or right.
Ah, our Supreme overlords once again make national law. 5 Justices decided that secession was unconstitutional. That’s right, 5 unelected officials get to decide for the whole nation. Old Bill Shakespeare might have been on to something.
It’s legal. Most everyone in the early days believed it was. It’s a very important part of being free imo.
It is if you win.
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Everything is legal if both sides agree. Texas has always been too valuable to lose. Louisiana, not so much.
Think about it, who would bitch if New Mexico left?
Having been a policeman, you often run into the conflict between doing what is ‘legal’ and doing what is just and right.
Before there were cameras everywhere LEO’s could decide between them in particular street incidents; it was called ‘discretion’.
Can’t do that anymore.
But for secession, ask yourself, all of the BS foisted on We the People by Congress for the past 50 years...Was it ‘legal’? Certainly. Was it Just or Right? Well..
I don’t think there will ever be permission. If it comes to it, you prepare for consequences and do it.
It could happen, but it would require the consent of Congress and the states.
Unilateral secession is expressly unconstitutional.
No. Next question.
Maine seceded from Massachusetts, Tennessee seceded from North Carolina, Kentucky seceded from Virginia, Vermont seceded from both New York and New Hampshire.
“The Union is what made our country.”
And a 19th century ideology is destroying it.
We will overwhelming take back the Congress and expel Seattle, Portland & SF
FORCE them to join Canada
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