Posted on 12/27/2020 6:16:41 PM PST by RandFan
@Maximus_4EVR
FYI Budget Update
-President Trump just invoked the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 while signing the COVID bill, allowing him to redline areas that must be addressed.
-This sends it back to Congress forcing them to 1) repeal 230, 2) cut out the wasteful spending, 3) add $2k.
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-This is a virtually unknown law and has taken Congress by surprise.
-It also signals his intent to invoke *other* laws in the coming weeks.
Stay tuned.
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-PER FOX: The Senate will start the process that increases checks to $2k, repeals Section 230, starts an investigation into voter fraud, per President Trump's redlines under the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (which Nixon signed).
-RINOs & Ds are furious.
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
You can’t be serious?
He used an obscure law to red line certain areas of the bill.
This sends it back to Congress forcing them to 1) repeal 230, 2) cut out the wasteful spending, 3) add $2k and start an investigation into voter fraud. Those are the apparent highlights, there is quite likely much more red lined.
So in your mind you think cutting wasteful spending, repealing 230 and forcing an investigation into voter fraud is losing?
Go back to your shrink, he’s got you on some real bad meds.
I’m trying to find the silver lining with him signing this bill..
What’s the use of utilizing Impoundment if Congress can just ignore?
It certainly was not his White House legal staff, the ones limiting Powell’s access and wanting Trump to concede.
I believe you are correct. I see no Constitutional mechanism that bypasses the legislative process and grants POTUS any such authority.
If a bill is passed by both houses of Congress and submitted to POTUS, he can either sign it in to law or not. Nothing inbetween...and Congress cannot modify that process without a Constitutional amendment.
My guess is he got something in return, maybe votes on repeal of section 230, etc. We will have to see.
I can understand being disappointed with this pork filled monstrosity. DC sucks.
But reading other posts that says Congress can’t ignore?
If true, that’s good news!
Well, that means any assumption that he just caved in outright is probably false. If he caved in completely, DC would be breaking out the champagne and caviar.
“But the current Congress ends in 6 days.”
There you have it!
I was waiting.
No congress is bound by another.
They will have to do it all over again with the new congress.
He will be bankrupted by then the demonrats will crucify him.
The Dem chair of the Appropriations committee just confirmed this and said they will allow Biden/Harris to proceed.
I can understand people being disappointed but please do not feed the sleeper/troll who just popped up!
I need a drink!
“Trump did many good things but from 2 weeks before the election to present he has really fowled up..”
Wait, where do birds come in to this?
Why was update they be furious? They’ve lost nothing.
Sad Night in Mudville...
Yes, he caved, he is done. The Dems are now in total control and forget Georgia, Trumps base will not show up now.
Did Trump get something in return?
@Breaking911
TRUMP: “The House and Senate have agreed to focus strongly on the very substantial voter fraud which took place in the November 3 Presidential election.”
Why, yes; yes, as a matter of fact, it does begin October 1st.
This move telegraphs the President’s confidence he’ll be getting sworn in, again, on January 20th.
Otherwise all this does is kick the can down the road three weeks when Biteme will make it moot.
It doesn’t force Congress to do anything; it invites them to. But the current Congress ends in 6 days.
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Thank you. A FReeper who understands Congressional limits.
Also: the new Congress is even more strongly R, even if the Ds have a few seats majority in the House.
If there are do-overs or set-asides in the election, anyone know how that affects House seats for the next Congress?
it says Congress has 45 days, but I’m not sure if it matters if it’s a new or old congress. Sitting congress ends in 6 days, but the fiscal year doesn’t end until Oct 1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Budget_and_Impoundment_Control_Act_of_1974
Here’s a Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Act quote that speaks to the Executive Branch power, and specifically of the Comptroller General’s office, which works to Trump’s advantage,
“The process for determining the amount of the automatic cuts was found unconstitutional in the case of Bowsher v. Synar, (478 U.S. 714 (1986)) as an unconstitutional usurpation of executive power by Congress because the Comptroller General’s function under the Act is the “very essence” of execution of the laws, which is beyond the power of a legislative body. It was noted: “Once Congress passes legislation, it can influence only its execution by passing new laws or through impeachment.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Rudman%E2%80%93Hollings_Balanced_Budget_Act
as it seems to mesh with the linked article quote:
” Section 686 states that if the comptroller general, who is part of the legislative branch, finds “that the President has failed to transmit the special message,” he shall “make a report” and send it to Congress and that report “shall be considered a special message transmitted under section 683 or 684.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/the-1974-law-that-makes-this-impeachment-especially-dubious
In the meantime, it’s said ‘the squad’ will introduce a stand-alone $2K bill on Monday which could make this bill a dead horse.
He did what he deemed best for the country....rather than shutting the country down.
It’s filibuster proof if the flippant procedure even reaches that point, lol. Individuals getting excited over this are easy marQks
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