Posted on 12/20/2020 5:06:23 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
The list is long. We continue to be duped by politicians at every level.
Assuming the Big Bang or something close is true
1) First gen stars had to make the “stuff of life” (Heavier elements) but were short lived because they were so massive and went boom fast (less than a billion years).
2) Second gen stars had to make the even heavier elements required and go boom (also relatively short lived massive stars that may have lasted a couple of billion years)
3) Stars like ours would have taken a long time to form.
4) Mammals are not the first life form to dominate the globe.
5) Had the Dinos not been 86th would they have eventually evolved an intelligent species?
6) We are a young sun.
7) We are a young planet
8) Mammalia is a young class
9) Primates are a young order
10) Within primates, hominids are a young family
11) Within hominids, sapiens are a young species
12) On the timeline of the universe, our solar system, the earth, the historical record of life on earth human history is so small it is unfathomable.
13) On the timeline of modern humans, technological civilization is also just a blip
14) We have been close to blowing ourselves up and poisoning ourselves with radioactives several times.
15) Life finds a way so if we were to commit collective suicide whatever came next would be less susceptible to radioactive damage and the whole cycle would reset. (See the bacteria thriving in the Chernobyl sarcophagus)
If there is other life there is life much older than us. If intelligence is an evolutionary culmination in the process there are many more intelligent things out there and many much older than us. If our history is representative then many would have blown themselves up but life finds a way.
You have limited your thinking to mammalian society
On earth, there are almost unlimited colonial insect societies that are complex to the extreme.
The numbers of individuals in these colonial societies exceeds humans
by incalculable margin. And, they are also God’s children
Actually, it IS science. The problem is, science is being morphed before our eyes and hoisted onto society as something that is settle fact.
There was a recent post on social sciences, that featured this brilliant give and take involving a Harvard faculty member critical of Charles Murray from the original article, that is worth reprinting - it is with regard to the "certainty of SCIENCE":
"so why should we let someone teach social science that we know to be wrong in our social science courses?"
Because it is possible that you are wrong.
Science is not mathematics. Newtonian physics was wrong. And social science is a further three rungs down in certainty from science.
Your level of certainty and arrogance about what can be said, and probably thought, smacks of religion, and not science. This is a political religion that permeates academia at the moment. And which I am fairly sure you will swear does not infect you, while the rest of us can see the symptoms quite plainly.
Only religions ban heretics from speaking because of the wrong-think they might cause. Real science loves a good heretic. In fact, honestly, the entire goal of science is to be a heretic. To have an idea that no other person ever had. Science is the pretty much the antithesis of your thought-police approach.
And most of academia used to be the antithesis of your thought police approach as well, until the religion of leftism took it over, with the direct help of people like you.
We now see a clear path to the stars, and WE have only just stepped out of the metaphorical cradle. Quantum computing, AI, machines that self-replacrate, unlimited energy... One thousand years from today it’s easy to imagine us attempting interstellar travel, sending signals, complete colonization of the moon, robot probes to various stars... 1,000 years is mere blip of time in astronomical scales. If there are thousands of galactic civilizations that were similarly situated millions of years ago... Where are they? Earth is prime real estate.
“Most of the alien civilizations that ever dotted our galaxy have probably killed themselves off already.”
I wonder what kind of drugs you need to take to be able to foreknow this?
The Book says Forty-two
40 - 2 = 38
They are not civilized societies.
Those colonies are properly understood as genetic individuals with semi-autonomous parts.
Each colony is more like a single body than a civilization.
Individual cells, such as workers, cannot reproduce. They cannot exist outside the colony. The colony produces more colonies, that is how it reproduces.
You are ignoring the obvious. The future is not biological, it is AI-controlled self-replicating machines. It would have been the same for any advanced interstellar civilization.
Statistical modeling says even the simplest life arising by chance anywhere in the universe is about as close to zero as you can get. For intelligent life to evolve from that is even more remote. So this article is Bravo Sierra dressed up in a thin veil of science jargon.
We can’t detect these alien civilizations because we’re at the technological equivalent of using signal-fires or drums for communication and wondering why we don’t see the alien equivalent form of communication.
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Perfect!
And I dare say other alien life forms may want to avoid us as we pose a dangerous threat as a Bull in a china shop.
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"...
And even farther back, (I think it was Asimov) ended an SF story with the brand-new artificial intelligence engine saying the dying words "Let There Be Light".
Someone had some computer time they had to use & needed one more publication for their yearly P&T evaluation.
Just like America’s cities.
...and the junk science continues.
We now see a clear path to the stars, and WE have only just stepped out of the metaphorical cradle. Quantum computing, AI, machines that self-replacrate, unlimited energy... One thousand years from today it’s easy to imagine us attempting interstellar travel, sending signals, complete colonization of the moon, robot probes to various stars... 1,000 years is mere blip of time in astronomical scales. If there are thousands of galactic civilizations that were similarly situated millions of years ago... Where are they? Earth is prime real estate.
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Indeed, we’ve just stepped out on the the front porch of our own “house” in space exploration. And yes, one can look back 1,000 years or even just 500 years and see we’ve made remarkable technological progress. And we’ve made even more rapid progress in the last 100 years. We likely can’t even imagine the technologies of 100 or 500 years from now.
As to where are those other civilizations... If they’re even aware of us, and the galaxy is a big place, they might consider us little more than an anthropological curiosity. Perhaps much like there are the Sentinelese, living a stone-age existence on Earth, these aliens might think the best course is to observe from a distance, but leave us alone. I would imagine we’re a minor curiosity at best, perhaps only because we are on the threshold of rapid technological advancement. And it may be a step many civilizations fail at and fall back. Maybe some group of young alien PhD students are writing up a thesis on us even now entitled, “Earth - on the brink of advancement or destruction”
As to the Earth itself. Earth spends much of its time frozen up in Ice Ages where 3/4 of the surface is buried under glaciers. We only happen to be lucky to be in one of the interglacial warm periods. A sufficiently advanced civilization capable of interstellar travel is likely also capable of terraforming their own planet or an uninhabited planet to suit their needs. There is no need to bother with Earth.
It’s nonsense, not enough time or material in the universe for the self generation of life.
There is nothing in that LiveScience article that is “science”.
It is 100% pure fantasy, and speculation based on fantasy.
The fantasy begins with any assumption there are or has been other “intelligent” civilizations in the galaxy.
There is zero known empirical evidence for that base assumption and it does not take a “scientist” to speculate that there is, was and has been such civilizations. Any K-12 school kid can do that.
Even the “science” variables they use are speculation, beginning with what the pseudo scientists claim to have a handle on - “earth like” planets. They take but a couple of variables about the earth - such as the type of star we have and our distance from our star, and assume an orb that just meets those one or two variables means it is/would be “earth like”.
There zero true science for such a meager method of identifying any planets anywhere in the galaxy as “earth like”.
So the entire methodology depends on junk science and childish fantasy.
LiveScience, if it were really a science journal would be embarrassed to publish that piece.
Premise is he more intelligent a species, the more distructful it is to itself and domain.
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