Posted on 11/23/2020 10:58:03 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
So, here is my question. Would you be willing to risk catching Covid if it would mean that your kids and grandkids would have a "normal" life?
I am 65, but otherwise I have no co-mobidities, and I am very healthy. I don't want to get the disease, but I would rather be sick for a few weeks if it would mean that life could get back to normal for my family.
I am sick of my kids suffering inadequate online classes (for college and graduate courses), of cancelled weddings (twice for us thus far), of cancelled summer plans to work in Canada and other cancelled plans and travels. I have been patient to this point, but when my son cancels his wedding for the second time due to new restrictive Covid rules, I have had it.
And I realized I would rather be sick for a few weeks, and probably get over it with a survival rate of 99%, and let my kids get back to their lives.
FReepers are, I believe, often my age or older. What do you think? Would you rather risk your life or not? I think many of you may not be as healthy, so perhaps my view is too extreme.
Because this is what it comes down to, isn't it: the economic and community consequences of the younger workers and families vs. the chance of illness among the elders.
I should also add that I live in a rural area and we are very isolated from anyone with any connection to Covid, so this no doubt has an effect upon my ideas here. The effect upon my children's lives (and so many others) seems far worse overall. Our county had 6 new cases this past week, but still the death toll is only 3 since January. Being rural may be a natural buffer from the disease. I don't want to get it, but I don't want to see anyone's life destroyed by the ramifications of the disease through lockdowns etc.
This is exactly the same way I feel... my 65th birthday is coming up next month.
I just read this post out loud to the two students in my classroom. We have “adapted” to the pandemic by severely limiting the number of students in the school, as it’s a boarding school and we can take that kind of action. The students are miserable. They all comment that they know this disease will have next to no impact on their lives - in fact, I have one student who tested positive, but he had no symptoms, and wouldn’t have known he had it if it wasn’t for the regulations requiring him to get a test.
Our descendants will think we are fools, not only for our actions during the pandemic, but allowing Hong Kong to fall to the communists, and permitting widespread voter fraud to elect creepy uncle Joe. God help us.
but the survival rate at age 65 is not 99%.....Oh for shits sake! 98.2% OK?
Try to live normal as best you can.
I personally believe Wu-Flu is a biological weapon, but quite frankly “normal” isn’t coming back again ever.
This nation & the fraud that circumvented the election is about to crown Longshanks Biden. I personally know at least 3 people who were killed by WuFlu, so I’m not questioning the validity of it - but I’m with you on the whole mask mandate.
Get out and live life.
What are the odds of me or my offspring dying from a car crash, home accident or drowning vs. dying from Covid?
We drive with closing speeds of 110 mph, with maybe 30” between us, with many looking at their smartphones, eating, drinking.
What are the odds of me dying from obesity, hypertension or hyperglycemia vs. dying from Covid?
What are the odds of me dying from a jealous husband vs. dying from Covid?
All things in perspective.
Surprise folks - you’ve already been exposed - many times.
Time to get real, get over it, and get back to work.
lock downs and masks are not to eliminated getting the virus only to delay getting it
Frankly, I fully expect to be exposed to CV19, if I haven’t already been. Herd immunity is what it’s all about, as far as I’m concerned.
IF...masks work, you have nothing to worry about, as everybody else had on a mask.
If masks work, nobody could contract anything (from you or anybody else)
If masks work, the only possibility for you being infected would be to be in contact with someone else not wearing a mask, WHILE ALSO BEING INFECTED.
According to Worldometer, there have been 12,313,717 confirmed cases in the US.
That is in total, from March until today. Including those no longer infectious.
It also includes those who have tested positive more than once.
It also includes those who tested positive and then retested negative.
It also includes those who tested positive who unknowingly tested false positive.
If we take the 12,313,717 and divide it equally between 9 months of March through November that would leave approximately 1,368,190 infected and possibly infectious in November.
Divide 330,000,000 rough US population by 1,368,190 = 241.194571
That means the odds of coming in contact with someone are 241:1
Not including all the number inflators and not including the sick who are self quarantining or in hospital.
Me thinks wearing masks are the least of your worries
Yes.
I just flew a week ago to California and will fly back to Newark end of 1st week of December.
I meet with all my family members & their friends and my friends and with the exception of one older sister we, all of us, are only masked when out at shops and eating places. I am staying with a brother who golfs twice a week with two separate groups - they are all not masked during their time together.
A sister of mine goes to a church that only stopped having full indoor services March to May. They have had full indoor services since May. Zero Covid cases in their congregation.
We have one nephew in a small Montana town and he, his wife and two kids all have had their individual Covid cases. Nothing serious any of them. Now they will be among the herd immunity when they go stay with my brother here during Christmas.
Isolation kills the immune system and makes one weaker when they finally do contact something hazardous.
Your total immune system is BUILT day by day as the body encounters millions of possible harmful pathogens and tests out possible responses against them as needed. Responses to new things are built initially by drawing on combinations of responses already learned. Sometimes some folks have sufficient immunity before they meet something new. THEY are the ones who have the least severe responses to something new straight away.
I say to everyone, get out and build up your immune system by giving it the opportunities to develop.
I’m grateful that the Pilgrims put their trust in God and not in their government. Although they didn’t all make it, some not even to these shores, enough did and here we are.
“All things in perspective.”
The perspective that I’m going after is that regardless of what I think, regardless of what the news tells you - scientists, politicians, experts, colleagues... Anyone - You are free to do what you feel is right in our country.
That is more important to me than any argument on the topic. I do what I do for the reasons I do them.
Felt sniffly Nov. 03.
Was informed Nov. 09 by coughing, headachy family friend that she had tested positive (her husband and child tested negative?!).
Tested positive (throat swabbing) on Nov. 10 (wife and child tested negative?!)
Received written mandatory order from German authorities (Health Dept.) for whole family to self-quarantine Nov. 12 (have already been in "home-office" since March). Quarantine to extend till Nov. 13 or 48 hrs after last symptoms (whichever is later).
Continued feeling sniffly, moderate post-nasal drip and resultant cough till about Nov. 20.
Resumed working ("home-office") today, Nov. 23.
As a 60-year-old, all I can say is: Big deal!
Regards,
I’m a 56-year-old divorced father of six, grocery trucker, with a pre-existing condition. I’ve worked 52-60 hours a week since the scare started. I think I might have had COVID-19 right before it hit the news. If I didn’t, I may get it in the future. Then again I might not. But if I do, I’ll probably feel lousy for a while then be over it. On the other hand, there’s a small chance it could kill me. That would be a drag, because I really was counting on living forever.
My eldest son got it a few months ago. Ten days later he was back on top. He’s in a public-facing job. Another son is starting an online business at this time. Two other sons are full-time college students who live with me. They’re computer wizards, so it frankly works better for them to do their classes online. The two in high school are doing well enough online.
So we’re weathering the scare and shutdowns pretty well in the present moment. This crap isn’t going to go on much longer, though, without generating a recession or depression. I’m not tolerant of wrecking the economy from which my young people (and everybody else) must extract a living. This whole crackpot scheme is a freakish amplification of the mentality that safety socialists and Nervous Nellies have always had. I knew there’d come a day when society would be unwise enough to give them real power, but I really had hoped that it wouldn’t be within my lifetime.
Let’s all remember that this whole thing started with TV footage out of Wuhan showing people in hazmat suits rushing to te aid of people falling in the streets like they’d just been gassed.
Haven’t seen that kind of thing happening since.
How do you know that?!
My wife - with a teaching degree from the Lomonossov U. of Moscow - has been home-schooling our sixth-grade boy for weeks at a stretch, on and off (depending upon whether the school was locked down or not), since April of this year.
She also home-schooled him during our mandated self-isolation at home (confined to our own four walls) these last two weeks.
She is stricter with him that his regular teachers - sits right next to him at their desk for hours at a stretch as they work on their respective computers.
Regards,
I am pushing 60 and I have some risk factors. I risk it every day I go to work and treat covid patients.
The short answer is yes.
Eventually you will be exposed.
I was and at 71 it sucked.
Think flu x3
The good news?
I survived
My prayers to you.
That’s part of why I don’t wear a mask. If I thought some sort of protection was necessary, I’d wear a GAS MASK.
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