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Horowitz: Cases surging in Hawaii - with the strictest mask mandate
Conservative Review ^ | 8/12/2020 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 08/17/2020 11:46:00 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods

f mask mandates were ever going to work to stop a spread, it would have occurred in Hawaii, which is isolated from the rest of the world on all sides. In fact, the exact opposite happened.

Keep in mind the state’s testing rate is still low. They’re testing 131K per million population vs. a 202K per million national average. Testing has increased somewhat, as in all states, but even when you adjust cases to test levels of April 8, today’s numbers are still 55% higher and rising fast.

Well, maybe people aren’t listening and are gathering too much? Not a chance.

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KEYWORDS: coronavirus; hawaii; mask; masks
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Seems like the perfect setting for masks to have an effect. Looks like they have, but not the desired one.
1 posted on 08/17/2020 11:46:00 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods
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To: SaxxonWoods

Mazie Hirono has some splaining to do.


2 posted on 08/17/2020 11:47:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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CRAZY Mazie cant explain ANYTHIN..she is the DU DUMBEST EVER!


3 posted on 08/17/2020 11:49:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

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Horowitz: Cases surging in Hawaii – with the strictest mask mandate
Daniel Horowitz · August 12, 2020 Font Size A A A
Hawaii
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Based on geography, seasonality, and latitude, when it is your turn to get the virus, you will get it. You can’t place a tarp, a mask, or a lockdown in front of a virus, the same way you can’t arrest the movement of a hurricane; you must deal with it with a healthy and functioning society. That is the enduring lesson of what we are seeing throughout the world, where there is zero correlation between human input and the trend of the virus. Hawaii is the latest example of this phenomenon.

Hawaii might possibly have the strictest lockdown and mask mandates in the country. It is essentially as strict as the Philippines, though without the threat of being shot by police. However, the state has jailed people for violating lockdown orders (while releasing 38% of all its real criminals in jail!). Tourism has been nonexistent, and all remaining visitors were told to quarantine. There has been a mandate in place requiring mask-wearing indoors since April and now even outdoors for the past month – even while jogging!

The result? Cases are surging more than ever – just like in the Philippines, Hong Kong, Israel, Australia, and every southern latitude area with a strict mask mandate and lockdown.

A friend created a graphic on Twitter juxtaposing Hawaii’s COVID-19 case trend line (even adjusted for increased testing) to the lockdown and unprecedentedly low social mobility score of its population.

If mask mandates were ever going to work to stop a spread, it would have occurred in Hawaii, which is isolated from the rest of the world on all sides. In fact, the exact opposite happened.

Keep in mind the state’s testing rate is still low. They’re testing 131K per million population vs. a 202K per million national average. Testing has increased somewhat, as in all states, but even when you adjust cases to test levels of April 8, today’s numbers are still 55% higher and rising fast.

Well, maybe people aren’t listening and are gathering too much? Not a chance.

As you can see, Hawaii’s mobility score of shoppers and travelers has essentially remained flat, at unprecedented low levels. There never has been a true reopening, yet cases are surging. The state’s mobility score is much lower than the U.S. average:

“Like most other countries that engaged in heavy-handed police state tactics, Hawaiians have nothing to show for their lockdown but a crushed economy and lives lost. Sure, they still have a low death rate, but that has nothing to do with stopping the spread with mandates. The spread was not stopped. The low death rate is likely driven by the same theory behind the low death rates in all the Pacific Rim countries – they have a high rate of cross-immunity from persistent coronavirus colds.”


4 posted on 08/17/2020 11:49:52 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Prediction: G. Maxwell will surprise everyone by not dying anytime soon.)
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5 posted on 08/17/2020 11:49:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." ... That's why they call it Heaven............)
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They are going to discover that masks actually help to spread the virus.

And when they do, oh boy, do I want to see Tony Fauci spinning and sweating at that press conference.


6 posted on 08/17/2020 11:50:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Hawai’i also has the second highest unemployment rate, and a serious drug problem. No jobs, lots of “ice”, and a whole lot of down time.
What could go wrong?...


7 posted on 08/17/2020 11:51:02 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’d prefer swinging to spinning.

And our Gov. and his he-bitch need to be tarred and feathered.


8 posted on 08/17/2020 11:52:17 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SaxxonWoods

This is because most masks people are wearing do NOT work. This is easily proven when you examine the size of the virus compared to the strands on the cloth. It may help minimally, occasionally, but it is not going to stop the spread. Plastic face shields are also not very effective, as they allow free air flow to the face from the all sides.


9 posted on 08/17/2020 11:54:25 AM PDT by An Appeal to Heaven
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To: SaxxonWoods

It’s a test of the mandate; not the masks. Many states have mandates in place along with limits on social gatherings and so on. Yet if you look, every one of them has evidence showing up all over Facebook and Instagram of massive house parties, riots where people are packed shoulder to shoulder, and other clearly against-policy behavior going on.

Saying masks don’t work because there’s a mandate in place that isn’t being followed is the same as saying seat belts don’t work because some people who weren’t wearing them got into an accident and died despite it being state law to wear seat belts.

I think the real lesson is that MANDATES don’t work. Because freedom-loving people don’t like anyone - particularly a government that’s supposed to be working for them - issuing edicts from on high telling them what to do. The better approach would be to end mandates and start education around WHY masks are important to wear and HOW they can help protect people who are vulnerable like our elderly and the 42% of Americans who are obese.


10 posted on 08/17/2020 11:55:19 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: EEGator

Never should have been a state.


11 posted on 08/17/2020 11:55:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
They are going to discover that masks actually help to spread the virus. And when they do, oh boy, do I want to see Tony Fauci spinning and sweating at that press conference.

He'll claim that he was right on this and not to worry because even though he is troubled by his, the virus will not be as much an issue after election day.

12 posted on 08/17/2020 11:55:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Perhaps that has been the goal.


13 posted on 08/17/2020 11:56:12 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: EEGator

Homeless all over the place also——for years.

.


14 posted on 08/17/2020 11:56:14 AM PDT by Mears
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To: SaxxonWoods
Ask the homeless


15 posted on 08/17/2020 11:56:33 AM PDT by PROCON (Voting Democrat in November is tantamount to kneeling on the throat of Lady Liberty.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
In the long run masks probably what stop COVID.

"Viruses Gonna Virus".

16 posted on 08/17/2020 11:57:53 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SaxxonWoods

I”m thinking maybe native Hawaiians, like Latinos, live in somewhat crowded housing? (More than 6 people per household?)

Just a guess—but here in CA, Latinos disproportionally are contacting the virus (And for mostly that reason, plus indoor parties and public contact at work).

You’d think Hawaiians would have PLENTY of Vitamin D but maybe they are spreading it but not suffering much.


17 posted on 08/17/2020 11:58:03 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: dfwgator

Agreed


18 posted on 08/17/2020 11:58:19 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Mears
Homeless all over the place also——for years.

I knew there was homeless problem when I drove North up to Kapalua years ago and the pubic beach areas were wall to wall tent cities.

19 posted on 08/17/2020 11:58:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: olivia3boys

Hawaiians tend to eat a very high carb diet, why so many there have diabetes.


20 posted on 08/17/2020 11:58:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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