Posted on 08/05/2020 8:30:03 AM PDT by entropy12
Nishi Uggalle, the latest crowned champion of Channel 4s Child Genius show, is believed to possess an IQ higher than Einsteins. Impressive as it sounds for a 12-year-old winning a junior Mastermind programme, but does the comparison with the infamous physicist actually mean anything? And how seriously should we consider IQ (intelligence quotient) as a benchmark of a persons intellectual capacity?
The most notable issue is that nobody knows what Albert Einsteins IQ was because he never took the test. It is presumed he would have an IQ score of over 160.
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Mensa ONLY requires an IQ of 132 (16 S.D. IQ) to join, but that’s smarter than 98% of the white population.
The longer I’ve been a Mensa member, the less I’m impressed with myself.
I’m in the 140’s, and make mistakes all the time. Also, I wouldn’t want to join Mensa. Bunch of Leftists.
Is that Private Stock?
When my daughter was leaving grade school, I was called to a meeting with the principal and counselor. They were so excited that she was one of only 2 students in the whole school district that tested in the 146 - 160 range and the other student was across town in a class of much wealthier kids. It opened up special classes, tutoring and programs that were a blessing.
Motivation is highly important. My IQ is high, but with anxiety, depression and ADD, it doesn’t count for much.
For some reason, my elementary school had me take an IQ test when I was in the 4th grade. I scored a 132. I've never taken another. I don't know how that translates into adulthood.
I've always scored well on tests, like the ACT. (34) I have no idea if that puts me in "Mensa" territory or not.
Based on life experiences, I've always figured I was in the top 5-7% or so, in IQ. I seem to know more useless facts than most people I come into contact with. I've met some truly BRILLIANT people through the years. I'm smart enough to know them when I meet them. Quite a few dunces too.
But, I'm also a big believer that IQ alone is not all that great. EQ is also important. The people I have met who are "off the chart" on EQ have been MORE successful (from a financial standpoint) than most high IQ people I've known.
Einstein didn’t kill himself.
Nothing if you have no common sense.
I took some kind of an IQ test before the third grade, and they told my parents I was 165+. That said, I couldn’t hold a candle to my Dad, who was an electronics and linguistics savant, US Army:
1955 - 1957 -— “Attended a six-month course in Instrument Repair at the Industrial Training Institute in Chicago, Illinois.
The course dealt with the repair and calibration of aircraft and other precision instruments, such as pyrometers, barometers, temperature, pressure, viscosity, and flow meters; ammeters, voltmeters, wattmeters, and radio compasses; gyroscopic instruments including turn-and-bank indicators, directional gyros and gyro horizons. Graduated at the head of the class.
[NIKE AJAX] The analog computer was taught in detail, physically, electronically, and mathematically.
. . . when the maintenance personnel of the ASP units were ‘stuck’ by some trouble or problem, we were called in to restore the set to operational status.
My primary area of responsibility was the Target Tracking Radar, Missile Tracking Radar, and the Radio Frequency Test Set; however, upon occasion I was called in to help straighten out the Acquisition Radar and/or the computer.”
My sister had a friend who was MENSA. She ended up committing suicide in 1999.
It was sad.
I recall another girl who committed suicide in the 80’s. She probably would have been Valedictorian. So smart she could not fit in.
Sad.
I kinda like being dumb....
You participated!
Sounds to me like you lead a very interesting life, and I imagine it was lucrative. The technical nature of your career is probably beyond 99% of us.
I’ve used these web sites to estimate my IQ from SAT and GRE tests. If you have taken either of them, you can update your estimates. Be careful of the dates that you might have taken those tests. The testing services changed the tests recently so that they no longer correlate to IQ.
https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/GREIQ.aspx
http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/psychology/iq-conversion.html
A site that explains why some countries are the way they are:
https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html
“What Does Having an IQ Higher Than Einstein Mean?”
You wear slip on shoes exclusively...
What’s often missed is when smart people do or say dumb things.
For example, when Bertrand Russell said “Whatever knowledge is attainable, must be attained by scientific methods; and what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know.” (self refuting statement)
Or Stephen Hawking’s statement that “because there is a law of gravity, the universe can and will create itself.” (logically incoherent)
Good to hear that story.
Many people become serial killers. With or without high IQ.
The IQ quest comes from two directions. First, it is a drive to identify persons with some sort of higher mental capability and secondly why some have this capability and others do not. As far as an answer for these two basics, I got nothing. However, for me they are the root base of why knowledge of IQ facets drives forward in exploration.
Having a high IQ does not equal in itself a guarantee of enhanced success. MENSA itself has members from high flying successes in one area or another to persons working as a laborer. Personality wise, some are gregarious and others are withdrawn recluses.
Ill share some experiences... Ill start off like the AA does and say, my name is Hoot and I am smart. Book learning wise, Ive got two STEM degrees in different fields, microbiology and chemical engineering. I was offered a job out of college by a semiconductor company that wanted to pay me $$$ and send me back to college for an electrical engineering degree. I was completely worn out with college though so went into industry in a quirky R&D niche. As far as IQ, I have no idea but its better than average. The only testing Ive done is Mensas format and one battery of tests completely twists my brain so much I walk away from it.
Read that last sentence, its important and applies to everyone. If anything, I believe that persons with higher IQs are more prone to having some other mentally related aspect that is much lower than the rest and possibly debilitating.
I had never before heard the term very stable genius until Donald Trump applied it to himself. Light bulbs went off, flashed even! LOL! That was something missing in how I could describe things and this lit things up. History is filled with great thinkers of higher intellect, higher IQ but what sets some above the others is a broader range of stability. I accept DJT self description as a VSG. Another that I nominate is Alfred Einstein, whom I wonder if was really a space alien. Hehehe...
No, Einstein was the other guy, the producer who boinked all the actresses.
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