Posted on 08/01/2020 1:38:41 PM PDT by PghBaldy
Two ships were to carry the pilgrims to the New World, the Mayflower and the Speedwell.
Two ships would carry the Pilgrims to the New World, the Mayflower and the Speedwell. If you’ve never heard of the Speedwell, that’s because the ill-fated vessel was abandoned after two attempts heading to sea.
The Speedwell was a pine-hulled, square-sterner built in England in 1577 as the light warship, Swiftsure. She participated in the battle of the Spanish Armada, and later sailed as an exploration vessel to the Azores.
After her decommissioning, she was renamed Speedwell.
#3 That Priscilla Mullins got around : )
My husband was a Mayflower descendant from both Francis Cooke and John Alden and Priscilla Mullins.
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I’m a descendant of John Alden. My maternal grandmother’s maiden name was Alden.
My Mayflower ancestors were Myles Standish, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins. Alexander Standish married Sarah Alden. Their daughter Elizabeth married Samuel Delano son of Philippe Delano (De La Noye) who arrived almost a year later from whom FDR’s mother was descended also. Every year at Thanksgiving my grandparents would place five kernels of Indian corn next to each plate to remind us of the hardships our Pilgrim fathers and mothers endured. I remember trying to chew it when I was four years old. Is it politically correct to still honor them on this four hundredth anniversary of their arrival. Or do I owe reparations to someone for that too?
So like if some indigenous people in what’s called America sailed to Europe in some canoes then claimed it for themselves; would that work?
As long as they moved in, created settlements, conquered, made treaties with the locals and hen over time became the dominate culture.
It is, after all what happened when the Indians arrived in Europe about 5000 BC.
About five groups left of the original inhabitants, the Finns, the Hungarians, Estonians, Basque and Sámi.
So it has been since the beginning and so it shall ever be.
The Hungarians were Magyars that immigrated into the area from the Asian plains into central Europe. (what with me being Hungarian Ashkenazim and all, got taught my heritage)
They seemed to be too numerous and centrally located.
The rest of us got pushed to the fringes.
It’s not easy to track it down. My husband’s family had one of those genealogy freaks who worked on it for years and it is documented but he never wanted to bother to join the Mayflower Society.
While blacks go around saying they’re African-Americans I don’t go around saying I’m Hungarian-American. I’m an American; although I could say I’m a Brooklyn-American just in keeping with that diversity nonsense.
Either be an American or be else where.
Yeah, I can be kind of harsh about it.
And as for the people who cry about how their ancestors were mistreated, get over it. Every group has been pushed around, ground down and every group has pushed around and ground down other groups at some point.
So everyone stand in a circle.
Now everybody hand the person to your left a quarter.
Ok, all ancestral debts are paid in full.
I wish it could work like that but it doesn't.
I am, in point of fact, a particularly haughty and exclusive person, of pre-Adamite ancestral descent. You will understand this when I tell you that I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable. I can’t help it. I was born sneering. But I struggle hard to overcome this defect. I mortify my pride continually.
G&S, The Mikado
lol
Thanks. They say you can’t pick your ancestors.
I had ancestors on both of those ships.
That and $5 might get me a cup of coffee!!
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