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Archaeology breakthrough: 'Significant' Genghis Khan discovery ends decades-old debate
Express UK ^ | Thursday, July 9, 2020 | Callum Hoare

Posted on 07/14/2020 1:27:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The location of a command post from where the first Great Khan staged his invasions has been the subject of lengthy debate among historians and archaeologists alike for decades. But, according to a new study from the Australian National University and the Mongolian Institute of Archaeology, researchers have found the 13th-century ruler's "ordu" or base camp. Avraga, a Mongol Empire site located along the Avraga River in east-central Mongolia, was one of four outposts used to strengthen what would become the largest contiguous empire in history, according to the paper published in the peer-reviewed Archaeological Research in Asia.

Dr Li Narangoa, a historian at the Australian National University, said last week: "The historical documentation appears to indicate the one at Avraga was his main camp, probably for both spring and winter, so this research is significant because it provides the natural science-based proof for the findings of historians.

"This was the camp where Genghis Khan started his campaign against his southern neighbours and this work supports this, it's a great contribution to historical research."

Dr Jack Fenner, an archaeologist at the Australian National University, added: "Our research supports Avraga as Genghis Khan's ordu, and while we still have no conclusive link to him, in my view, Avraga is more likely than not to have been his base camp.

"We also see evidence of religious or ceremonial functions at Avraga that we see extending into the Yuan Empire in China, which was part of the Mongol Empire's southern expansion."

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; avraga; genghiskhan; godsgravesglyphs; middleages; renaissance
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To: SunkenCiv

Chaka Kahn!


21 posted on 07/14/2020 3:49:48 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: ridesthemiles

yes he did!

The John Wayne movie on Genghis some people claim it contributed to Wayne’s death. Either gave him cancer or contributed to his cancer. Also there is a claim that many of the principals in the move also died “prematurely” of cancer. The filming was supposedly done during the time of an above ground nuclear test. The prevailing winds over the test site were in the direction of where the movie was being filmed.

The funniest thing I remember about the movie was Susan Hayward as a red headed I guess Irish Mongol and the Mongol Horde being obviously Mexican.


22 posted on 07/14/2020 3:50:00 PM PDT by Reily
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To: jonrick46

She has presence!


23 posted on 07/14/2020 3:50:29 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page=61)
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To: Reily; SunkenCiv; All

Where was Yul Brenner (sp?) at that time?


24 posted on 07/14/2020 4:48:31 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Dunno !

The other backstory about this film was the studio forced Duke to take the role. So he did the film drunk.


25 posted on 07/14/2020 4:52:19 PM PDT by Reily
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To: AndyJackson

In Xanadu did Kublai Khan a stately pleasure dome decree. Along the sacred river Alph, through caverns measureless to man, down to a sunlit sea.

That’s all I can recall about the place, it’s been a very long time since I tried to memorize that whole poem.


26 posted on 07/14/2020 4:53:20 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Free Men don't ask permission.)
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To: Outlaw76; 21twelve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEuOoMprDqg

To stand within the pleasure dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste anew the fruits of life
The last immortal man
To find the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
Oh, I will dine on honey dew
And drink the milk of paradise, oh, paradise


27 posted on 07/14/2020 4:55:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Reily
‘This Tatar woman is intended for me and my blood says to have her!’


28 posted on 07/14/2020 4:55:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Antoninus II; SunkenCiv; null and void; RummyChick; Jane Long; mrsmith; saintgermaine; All

I too clicked that link and did not find that article. Did find this interesting link about bubonic plague in Asia.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1309186/China-bubonic-plague-outbreak-black-death-mongolia-news

Several people from various areas have died from eating Marmot meat (animal similar to prairie dogs). In US, bubonic plague is endemic in a number of our western states. Direct contact with infected rodents and their fleas. There is a pneumonic form which is very rapidly deadly caught from airborne spray, human to human. China, Russia, and Mongolia have all posted alerts.


29 posted on 07/14/2020 5:38:24 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Reily; SunkenCiv; All

My aunt was living in Reno during that period. She said after a nuclear test, people would report feeling sick or poorly. Probably low grade radiation sickness.

Well, at least a lot of Mexicans have an Asian heritage, and the Khan had his choice of many exotic captives.


30 posted on 07/14/2020 5:47:47 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: SunkenCiv

Was this THE Jinjis Khan? of John Kerry fame?.........................................


31 posted on 07/15/2020 5:19:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: Red Badger
Yeah, I took all the JFin'K topics out of the sorted list.

32 posted on 07/15/2020 8:02:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

He was in Vietnam, did you know that?..............


33 posted on 07/15/2020 8:13:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: SunkenCiv

I guess if I had to spend winters there it would make me mad enough to want to go conquer everything to the south.


34 posted on 07/15/2020 9:48:32 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
I grok that. But I think he just liked kilin' people.

35 posted on 07/15/2020 10:36:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: dfwgator
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.
So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round:
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

36 posted on 07/18/2020 7:26:22 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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