Posted on 07/08/2020 10:36:50 AM PDT by CedarDave
I quickly learned that many patients with advanced COVID-19 disease bore none of the hallmarks of severe respiratory illness until they suddenly collapsed and died. ... [A] study from Wuhan, China, describes pathological lung changes on CT scans of completely asymptomatic patients. Asymptomatic carriage is not uncommon in other virulent infections, such as MRSA and C diff, but what is striking with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is that it may be accompanied by underlying organ damage.
The researchers found lesions consistent with inflammation of the underlying lung tissue (ground-glass opacities and consolidation, to use the medical jargon), which are not specific to SARS-CoV-2 infection and may be seen in many other forms of lung disease. What remains a mystery is why, despite these changes, patients do not display typical symptoms of pneumonia, such as severe shortness of breath.
About a quarter of the patients in the study developed a fever, cough and shortness of breath but many did not. The idiosyncratic response to infection is one of several conundrums of COVID-19, such as why it targets certain groups and not others two people with exactly the same demography and health may express the disease at opposite ends of the spectrum. The study reinforces that absence of symptoms does not imply the absence of harm.
Lack of symptoms in the face of active pathology carries a risk both to infected individuals and to the public. Current advice encourages patients to stay at home if they are asymptomatic, making late presentation to hospital and sudden death a distinct risk.
Fragments of evidence are slowly being pieced together, mainly from many small, disparate studies. The full picture will coalesce as the quality and quantity of evidence expand and refines our understanding of SARS-CoV-2.
(Excerpt) Read more at globalbiodefense.com ...
And then there is the public health nightmare. As many as 40-45% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 remain asymptomatic, with a viral load as high as those who are actively ill. Add to that the significant false-negative rate of up to 20% for screening tests where people are wrongly told they dont have the infection and the scale of the problem is magnified. These are the covert transmitters who continue to shed the virus for up to 14 days and it raises clear questions about the effectiveness of the testing strategy or the use of screening measures such as temperature checking.
Posting only to encourage scientific discussion; not intending to be an associate of Doctor Doom with a sky-is-falling scenario.
However, that said, it's a good reason to start HCQ + zinc at first notification of a positive test (don't wait until you enter the hospital) or maybe use as a prophylactic before you receive a positive test.
Hat tip to metmom who sent me the original link.
Omygosh. Who can’t?
They probably can develop hang nails, too.
Boy howdy! That's some great journalistic writin' right there, I'm tellin' ya. I guess the author felt compelled to include the 'but many did not' part in case they were concerned that people couldn't figure out that 'about a quarter of the patients' wasn't all of them.
OMG - I've got that - I've got a hang nail! What do I do now!!!!
It’s magic.
So you’d better obey.
“study from Wuhan, China”
Already know it’s a pack of lies intended to foment hysteria. And you should already know this too.
My conclusion: People who drink water can still develop lung cancer.
“it’s a good reason to start HCQ + zinc at first notification of a positive test”
That’s just good advice in general. If you can get your doc to prescribe Plaquenil. He might be a Democrat, scoff at you. In which case, get rid of him.
Got to love these fear and loathing pieces... Covid can cause this, covid can cause that... The numbers are minuscule and many of the people involved likely had existing ailments they never even knew about... But what the heck... Let's keep the fear and loathing going.
Thoughts?
Lung damage is a bad way of putting it. What they have are radiographic findings which do not indicate any long term problems or damage. This also occurs in other pneumonias. It is impossible to tell how clinically ill someone is by looking at their CT scan. Same with no infectious things such as blood clots and the like.
The Karens against Trump and a strong America are beyond scratching the bottom of the barrow.
Each, day their Covid 19 assumes magical powers that can probably/maybe kill 10 generations from now.
The article confuses me.
Neither case cited by the author was asymptomatic: the old man was sick enough to warrant a CT scan of the chest; the other patient was gasping for air.
Now, it is possible that asymptomatic patients may have groundglass infiltrates on CT scan; some of these patients may be pre-symptomatic. Some of these patients have other reasons for groundglass infiltrates (pneomoconioses, mycobacterial infection, pulmonary fibrosis of any cause, etc.)
In all of these patients found to have infiltrates due to COVID, follow-up CT scans and pulmonary function tests in 6 months will determine if they have developed chronic lung disease.
And, yes, I agree with early Rx with HC + Zinc.
It’s literally the Chuck Norris of viruses.
It can survive outside, on a bright, sunny day in full UV and 97 degree heat, for 37 days before jumping 5 feet 11 inches into my cat, causing his kidneys to explode.
Throughout this all I’ve read reporting that was not very far different from that.
Bump!
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