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Zinc: The Missing Element in the HCQ/COVID-19 debate
American Thinker ^ | 04/26/2020 | Howard Richman

Posted on 04/26/2020 6:31:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It has been known, ever since 1984, that zinc is an effective virus fighter. That year a research study discovered that taking zinc gluconate lozenges early in the course of a common cold could shorten it. After a series of apparently conflicting research studies, a 2012 review of the literature concluded that taking zinc early reduces the duration of a common cold by an average of 1.65 days. Since colds are mild virus infections, it is clear that zinc has anti-virus properties.

Zinc and COVID-19

When the COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) virus pandemic began, one of the glaring facts apparent to those who were familiar with the zinc research was that at least two of the three groups in the United States that were known for having zinc deficiencies (elderly people and Black Americans) were contracting and dying from COVID-19 at much greater proportions than the general public. There are no statistics available on the third group (vegans), but there is an anecdotal report of a young and robust vegan getting a severe case of COVID-19.

Correlation is not causation, and there are other reasons why African Americans and elderly people might be the most vulnerable. But medical researchers have long known some of the mechanisms through which zinc fights virus infections within the cell. In an excellent YouTube video from March 6, 2020, Dr. Seheult illustrates and explains the inner workings of COVID-19 within the cell and how zinc within the cell fights it.

On April 7, two Belgian researchers, Amir Noeparast and Gil Verschelden, published a research paper in which they discussed the research results about the relationship between zinc deficiency and COVID-19. The evidence that they marshal is impressive:


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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: chinavirustreatment; covid19; hcq; hcqtreatment; hcqzinc; hcqzpaczinc; hydroxychloroquine; zelenko; zinc; zinczinczinc
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1 posted on 04/26/2020 6:31:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a medical doctor in up-state New York, used a cocktail of zinc, HCQ and an antibiotic to successfully treat COVID-19 when it raged through a Hasidic Jewish community that he serves. He didn’t prescribe anything to those who were young and healthy, but he treated 200 of the others with his cocktail with excellent results: zero deaths, only four needing hospitalization for pneumonia and only two needing hospitalization for intubation on a respirator.

Despite Zelenko’s success, not a single controlled study has tried out the combo of HCQ with zinc. Instead they have either tried HCQ by itself or paired it with an antibiotic such as azithromycin.


2 posted on 04/26/2020 6:33:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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On April 7, two Belgian researchers, Amir Noeparast and Gil Verschelden, published a research paper in which they discussed the research results about the relationship between zinc deficiency and COVID-19.

SEE HERE:

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0094/v1

The two Belgian researchers conclude that zinc should always be given to patients whenever HCQ is administered, because:

Even if CQ or HCQ does not turn out to be zinc ionophore, it would still be possible that Zinc can exert an anti-SARS replication effect independent of CQ/HCQ. Patients with zinc deficiency would likely be deprived of this additive effect.

If further data suggests that CQ/HCQ are zinc ionophores mediating zinc uptake into the SARS-CoV-2 infected cells, one can postulate combining zinc supplements with CQ/HCQ or at least zinc correction in zinc-deficient patients could be beneficial.

However, if the new data suggest that CQ/HCQ is interfering with zinc uptake into the SARS-CoV-2 infected cells or in an organelle such as lysosomes — in line with findings of Seo et al. combining zinc correction or zinc supplementation with CQ/HCQ might be even highly essential.


3 posted on 04/26/2020 6:35:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all anecdotal.


4 posted on 04/26/2020 6:35:43 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, there is info about zinc ionoporos allow the place.

PLEASE review the following and pass EVMS protocol to everyone you can

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf


5 posted on 04/26/2020 6:36:50 AM PDT by Devils_Tower (evms)
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To: SeekAndFind

Zinc is not a pharmaceutical company recommendation and they will not make money on it. Rest my case!


6 posted on 04/26/2020 6:38:06 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

Come back Zinc!

https://youtu.be/U1iCZpFMYd0


7 posted on 04/26/2020 6:39:01 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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From the preprint: “Notify me about updates to this article or when a peer-reviewed version is published.”


8 posted on 04/26/2020 6:39:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: SeekAndFind

Zinc can lead to anosmia. COVID-19 already has anosmia as a symptom.


9 posted on 04/26/2020 6:47:12 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: SeekAndFind
agree....it's called rigging results....until Dr. Fauci announces "We have a vaccine"...in 10 years.

He's still looking for one for HIV which he promised in 1996. Interesting because he gave the same timeline for the vaccine...about 2 years.

10 posted on 04/26/2020 6:51:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

You have to be careful with zinc.


11 posted on 04/26/2020 6:52:55 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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RE:You have to be careful with zinc.

As you have to with every other substance ( even vitamins ) you take.


12 posted on 04/26/2020 6:53:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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I’ve been taking 15mg of zinc for the past three years and I believe it’s helped me not come down with infections since I fly a virus snot factory daily.


13 posted on 04/26/2020 7:04:40 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Until they don’t test the cocktail on mid to early stage of disease, we are getting fake news.


14 posted on 04/26/2020 7:09:39 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump says “I hear zinc has helped some people” immediately we will read articles telling us that zinc is a poison and that a couple in Georgia died after eating throat lozenges containing zinc. Democrat governors will arrest anyone who recommends zinc.

Such is their hatred for Trump.


15 posted on 04/26/2020 7:13:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the bug. I hate the media.)
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To: LoveMyFreedom

Yep. Not much money to be made with zinc. Now if pharma can make patented from and make billions, then that’s another story.
Why would anybody with a brain doubt that a healthy, well nourished body is much better at fighting off disease?


16 posted on 04/26/2020 7:14:20 AM PDT by all the best (You)
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Yep. Not much money to be made with zinc. Now if pharma can make patented from and make billions, then that’s another story.
Why would anybody with a brain doubt that a healthy, well nourished body is much better at fighting off disease?


That is because the majority of people have been taught to believe in taking a pill and it will just go away while in many cases eating right and taking care of oneself would be all that it takes. While the pill only masked the problem and does resolved the issue. This is not saying they is a properly time and place to take pills.


17 posted on 04/26/2020 7:20:40 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

For some time now, one of our dear FRiends and heroes here, wastoute, a retired clinician, has been mocking the idea of zinc ionophores, which he calls “zinc pores” and likening the idea to homeopathic quackery. This does not bother me in the slightest and I only hope to get at the truth.

He has made an argument that he thinks is conclusive which I might summarize as “because homeostasis.” “Go read up on zinc homeostasis!” Also in one of his comments he gives a brief summary of evidence of zinc homeostasis in the body. There is of course no doubt about the phenomenon. In fact he might have pointed out that the mechanism we are describing requires an amount of labile zinc the amount of which, in interstitial tissues, is effectively NONE!

I figure he knows something I do not know about this, so I have been all around researching. I have included reading about cancer research including using pyrithione as ionophore since all of that work would also be obviated by the “because homestasis” argument. Wei-Qun Ding and Stuart Ling in a paper from November 2009 imagine a whole new class of anti-cancer drugs.

I have really enjoyed my study and was delighted to find hope regarding what I considered to be the two real problems in this work, namely how do you target only the compromised cells, and how do you get the effect you want without killing all the cells. At Leiden Univ in 2010, Snijder and van Hemert got the effect on many viruses including nidoviruses like SARS-CoV without cytotoxicity!

There is a lot of interest in zinc as in some situations and cells it signals apoptosis and in others it stops it. You can turn it on and off depending on what you put with it, crucial in dealing with cancer cells. (They are a long way from this being practical.) But I cannot find anyone who thinks that it is impossible to get free Zn++’s to the site “because homestasis.” There is talk about nitric oxide dramatically increasing the levels of reactive zinc intracellularly. They used zinc hydroxide and zinc acetate always assuming that the Zn++ had to be provided with the ionophore.

Zn Homestasis would be the reason zinc must be provided if our theory of therapeutic effect is at all reasonable.

Please tell me where I am going wrong. It was gas_dr who said to me once, “Your level of ignorance is breath-taking!” Also everyone please understand that I consider wastoute to be among the finest FReepers on this forum, a hero, a patriot, an example to us all for whom I have the deepest respect though I have never met him personally.


18 posted on 04/26/2020 7:58:03 AM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dr. mrs. jimfree and I have been taking Zinc as a cold remedy for years and now as a prophylaxis for weeks.


19 posted on 04/26/2020 8:10:46 AM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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Zicam dittos


20 posted on 04/26/2020 8:17:13 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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