Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a medical doctor in up-state New York, used a cocktail of zinc, HCQ and an antibiotic to successfully treat COVID-19 when it raged through a Hasidic Jewish community that he serves. He didn’t prescribe anything to those who were young and healthy, but he treated 200 of the others with his cocktail with excellent results: zero deaths, only four needing hospitalization for pneumonia and only two needing hospitalization for intubation on a respirator.
Despite Zelenko’s success, not a single controlled study has tried out the combo of HCQ with zinc. Instead they have either tried HCQ by itself or paired it with an antibiotic such as azithromycin.
Yes, there is info about zinc ionoporos allow the place.
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Zinc is not a pharmaceutical company recommendation and they will not make money on it. Rest my case!
Zinc can lead to anosmia. COVID-19 already has anosmia as a symptom.
You have to be careful with zinc.
I’ve been taking 15mg of zinc for the past three years and I believe it’s helped me not come down with infections since I fly a virus snot factory daily.
Until they don’t test the cocktail on mid to early stage of disease, we are getting fake news.
If Trump says “I hear zinc has helped some people” immediately we will read articles telling us that zinc is a poison and that a couple in Georgia died after eating throat lozenges containing zinc. Democrat governors will arrest anyone who recommends zinc.
Such is their hatred for Trump.
For some time now, one of our dear FRiends and heroes here, wastoute, a retired clinician, has been mocking the idea of zinc ionophores, which he calls “zinc pores” and likening the idea to homeopathic quackery. This does not bother me in the slightest and I only hope to get at the truth.
He has made an argument that he thinks is conclusive which I might summarize as “because homeostasis.” “Go read up on zinc homeostasis!” Also in one of his comments he gives a brief summary of evidence of zinc homeostasis in the body. There is of course no doubt about the phenomenon. In fact he might have pointed out that the mechanism we are describing requires an amount of labile zinc the amount of which, in interstitial tissues, is effectively NONE!
I figure he knows something I do not know about this, so I have been all around researching. I have included reading about cancer research including using pyrithione as ionophore since all of that work would also be obviated by the “because homestasis” argument. Wei-Qun Ding and Stuart Ling in a paper from November 2009 imagine a whole new class of anti-cancer drugs.
I have really enjoyed my study and was delighted to find hope regarding what I considered to be the two real problems in this work, namely how do you target only the compromised cells, and how do you get the effect you want without killing all the cells. At Leiden Univ in 2010, Snijder and van Hemert got the effect on many viruses including nidoviruses like SARS-CoV without cytotoxicity!
There is a lot of interest in zinc as in some situations and cells it signals apoptosis and in others it stops it. You can turn it on and off depending on what you put with it, crucial in dealing with cancer cells. (They are a long way from this being practical.) But I cannot find anyone who thinks that it is impossible to get free Zn++’s to the site “because homestasis.” There is talk about nitric oxide dramatically increasing the levels of reactive zinc intracellularly. They used zinc hydroxide and zinc acetate always assuming that the Zn++ had to be provided with the ionophore.
Zn Homestasis would be the reason zinc must be provided if our theory of therapeutic effect is at all reasonable.
Please tell me where I am going wrong. It was gas_dr who said to me once, “Your level of ignorance is breath-taking!” Also everyone please understand that I consider wastoute to be among the finest FReepers on this forum, a hero, a patriot, an example to us all for whom I have the deepest respect though I have never met him personally.
Dr. mrs. jimfree and I have been taking Zinc as a cold remedy for years and now as a prophylaxis for weeks.
If you don’t have enough zinc, it isn’t going to work.
Not much $$$ to be made with HCQ and zinc, so Dr Fauxi will be his usual passive aggressive self and fight it tooth and nail
Something I’ve been wondering about with regard to WuFlu nursing home patients...If the patient was/is on a daily multivitamin, do the patients on vitamins with more zinc do better than the patients on vitamins with lower amounts, patients not on a multivitamin.
I went to my local supermarket yesterday. It sells three brands of zinc, and they were all sold out. Just about every other type of supplement was well-stocked. My multi-vitamin has some zinc, but i was going to up my zinc intake a little. I have a feeling that looking for zinc is going to be like looking for toilet paper.