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Facts about Covid-19: Fully referenced facts about Covid-19, provided by experts in the field, to help readers make a realistic risk assessment (April 25, 2020 Edition)
Swiss Propaganda Research ^ | 04/25/2020

Posted on 04/25/2020 9:46:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Below you will find regular, but not daily, updates on medical and political developments.

April 25, 2020

Medical updates
Green: Real increase of infected people; red: increase due to more tests.
Sweden: The media versus reality

Some readers were surprised by the decrease in deaths in Sweden, as most media show a steeply rising curve. What is the reason for this? Most media show cumulative figures by date of reporting, while the Swedish authorities publish the much more meaningful daily figures by date of death.

The Swedish authorities always stress that not all newly reported cases have died within the last 24 hours, but many media ignore this (see graph below). Although the latest Swedish figures may still increase somewhat, as in all countries, this does not change the generally declining trend.

In addition, these figures represent deaths with and not necessarily from coronavirus. The average age of death in Sweden is also over 80 years, about 50% of deaths occurred in vulnerable nursing homes, while the effect on the general population has remained minimal, even though Sweden has one of the lowest intensive care capacities in Europe.

However, the Swedish government has also been given new emergency powers due to „corona“ and could still participate in later contact tracing programmes.

Cumulative deaths by date of reporting vs. daily deaths by date of death. (OWD / FOHM)

The situation in Great Britain

Deaths in the UK have risen sharply in recent weeks, but are still in the range of the strongest flu seasons of the last fifty years (see chart below). In the UK, too, up to 50% of additional deaths occur in nursing homes, which do not benefit from a general lockdown.

Moreover, up to 50% of the additional deaths are said to be non-Covid19 deaths and up to 25% of the additional deaths occur at home. It is therefore not at all clear whether the general lockdown is beneficial or in fact detrimental to society at large.

Frasor Nelson, the editor of the British Spectator, has claimed that government agencies expect the lockdown to result in up to 150,000 additional deaths in the longer term, significantly more than what Covid19 is expected to cause. Most recently, the case of a 17-year-old student and singer who took her own life because of the lockdown became known.

It is striking that England, in contrast to most other countries (including Sweden), has a significantly elevated mortality rate even among 15 to 64-year-olds. This could be due to the frequent cardiovascular preconditions, or it might be caused by the effects of the lockdown.

The InProportion project has published numerous new graphs that put current UK mortality in relation to previous flu outbreaks and other causes of death. Other websites that critically review the British situation and measures are Lockdown Skeptics and UK Column.UK: Weekly all-cause mortality (InProportion)

Switzerland: Excess mortality well below strong flu waves

The following graph shows that overall mortality in Switzerland in the first quarter of 2020 was in the normal range and that by mid-April it was still around 2000 people below the flu wave of 2015. 50% of deaths occurred in nursing homes that do not benefit from a lockdown.

Overall, around 75% of the additional deaths occurred at home, while hospitals and intensive care units remain heavily underutilized and numerous operations have been cancelled. In Switzerland, too, the very serious question thus arises as to whether the „lockdown“ may have cost more lives than it saved.

Cumulated deaths compared to expected value, 2010 to 2020 (BFS)

Political updates


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; facts; science

1 posted on 04/25/2020 9:46:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow. There’s a lot here. Good stuff. Thank you.


2 posted on 04/25/2020 10:00:59 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: SeekAndFind

“Covid19 is „in many respects comparable to the flu“ and „no more dangerous than certain variants of the flu virus“

And they’ve wiped out a fifth of the US economy over the flu.


3 posted on 04/25/2020 10:27:27 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting this info!!!


4 posted on 04/25/2020 10:34:37 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our approach to deal with this plague was highly influenced by the death and sickness due to the CCWV ( Chinese Communist Wuhan Virus) reports coming out of Italy.

Most Americans including this one were not aware that that the Italian socialist government had actually allowed the Chinese communists to purchase thus remove Italian ownership of a large segment of their fashion industry producers. Then replace the Italians working at those companies taken over by the Chinese and have them manned by thousands of Chinese nationals allowed to be brought in to work there.

When that CCWV breakout occured in Wuhan the politburo closedoff Wuhan but did not warn the Italian Socialist government or the Pope with whom the Chinese government had good relations with but certainly violated when the socialists should have been informed and allowed to deny those Chinese workers travel to and from China particularly for their New Year while this was occuring. Which Trump did with the exception of only allowing American citizens returning..

Those statistics being reported always indicated the casualties were aged Italians no focus was permitted on China or even if the victims were from China and the emphasis was on the speed of contagion. While doing so also ignored the direct connection those producers have with the Chinese Communist government which owns them.
-—— Original Message -——
From: moses
To: Rush Limbaugh
Cc: John muir ; Joe pags
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:44 AM
Subject: Bonn Univ Study

Leading German Virologist: ”No Transmission Of The Virus In Supermarkets, Restaurants Or Hairdressers Has Been Proved”
RTL Luxembourg ^ | 09.04.2020

Posted on 4/13/2020, 12:52:54 AM by Helicondelta

Mr Streeck is a professor for virology and the director of the Institute of virology and HIV Research at the University Bonn. He explained the methodology of his new study in Heinsberg, the “epicentre” of Germany’s COVID-19 outbreak, and talked about potential plans for a country to move forward gradually in getting back to a “normal” life.

These research findings have already provided some indication on how the virus works, as Streeck clarified:

“There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time, for example the après- ski parties in Ischgl, Austria.” He could also not find any evidence of ‘living’ viruses on surfaces. “When we took samples from door handles, phones or toilets it has not been possible to cultivate the virus in the laboratory on the basis of these swabs….”
(Excerpt) Read more at today.rtl.lu ...


5 posted on 04/25/2020 10:49:02 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bttt.

5.56mm


6 posted on 04/25/2020 10:52:37 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

This is a very interesting article thank you very much

The scary part was the compulsory vaccine part back in 2009 and hold a severe neurological damage caused

Of course the vaccine industry probably didn’t give a crap And just went on its merry way

The big point is this how can millions of people get this thing and not even know they have it and less it’s mild?


7 posted on 04/25/2020 11:20:28 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you.

End. The. Hoax.


8 posted on 04/25/2020 11:22:58 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 Collyer Report!!!)
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To: Truthoverpower

Because this virus IS NOT dangerous to people without underlying conditions 98% of the people who have passed have been elderly, obese, diabetic, pre diabetic, hypertension healthy people are NOT having severe conditions from this virus SO YES many many people have had this and thought they had a cold or flu!! The hysteria that has been created by the media has been absurd BUT it succeeded in crushing Trumps economy and crushing 25 million lives but hey the ends justified the means where the media is concerned they don’t give a damn about people’s lives they still have a job AND so do all of government employees!!{


9 posted on 04/25/2020 11:30:02 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

AGREED!!!


10 posted on 04/26/2020 12:00:19 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: brookwood
Thank you for your sensible post. Your frustration with the unthinking and deniers shows through.

Timing is important. An unripe fruit is horrible. Patience is a virtue and many have none. We live in perilous times.

12 posted on 04/26/2020 4:50:53 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: brookwood
And I might add I saw this coming. The shutdowns, social distancing, etc. would be effective and loudmouths would complain “See, we didn’t need all that.”

It’s like someone whose attached garage was on fire complaining to the fire department that they unnecessarily got their house wet because it didn’t burn down. Total stupidity.

We ought to consider that the shutdown could have saved 2 million in the US alone. Then, rejoice and go forward.

13 posted on 04/26/2020 4:59:32 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: brookwood

RE:Dear SeekandFind
You are a despicable liar, you make me so angry. Your lies start in the first paragraph, why would anyone read the rest.

YOU SIR, are confusing ME, with the author(s) of this article. I would not mind you directing your ire at this author, but since you made it personal (calling me a despicable liar when I had nothing to do with this piece), I would like to warn you that there are rules in this forum against personal attacks against a fellow FReeper.

Please, if you disagree with the writer if this piece, feel free to attack HIS data, not me. One more personal atrack and I will have no choice but to inform the moderator of this forum.

Thanks.


14 posted on 04/26/2020 5:36:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Truthoverpower

Glad you liked it, but I didn’t post it.


15 posted on 04/26/2020 6:08:31 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep these articles coming.


16 posted on 04/26/2020 6:19:31 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: SeekAndFind
Thank you for posting this. Swiss Prop Re has done an excellent job. I've written another letter to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis citing this source. Here's my letter in case anyone would like to use it:

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Dear Governor DeSantis,

Website Swiss Propaganda Research have been following Covid-19 and have compiled a valuable set of information on its affect in several countries. What is apparent is that the disease is not as virulent and not as deadly as was supposed. Our response to Covid-19 has been overdone. More people are dying from the effects of the shutdown than from Covid-19: from heart attacks, delays in treatment, and from fear induced illness. Here is the link to Swiss Propaganda Research latest news https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest.

We are causing more harm to ourselves by continuing the shutdown. We are not "saving" anyone by shutting down restaurants or hair salons. Instead we are destroying the livelihoods of thousands who can least afford it.

We have a treatment protocol that works: hydroxychloroquine + azithromicin + zinc. I'm sure you will hear objections that it's dangerous, or its affect is only anecdotal. Every drug is potentially dangerous but hydroxychloroquine is used every day by people with lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, mostly with no ill effects. Medicine is mostly anecdotal. Even double blind studies are anecdotal because people are not machines, because of the placebo effect, and because to do a real experiment is immoral and unethical.

We shutdown society to save our hospitals from being overwhelmed. Our hospitals are near empty. We have a treatment protocol. It is time to reopen America. All you have to say is: "The worst is over, we can all reopen again". We don't need a reopening plan; the people will do a better job. We don't need to listen to "experts". The "experts" led us astray with their exaggerated predictions of a new Black Death. Those who still fear the illness can wear a mask or hide in their homes. It is time to stop the self punishment. It is time to stop flagellating ourselves.

It's Time To Reopen. Let America Live Again.

Sincerely,

17 posted on 04/26/2020 6:54:44 AM PDT by captain_dave
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