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Corona virus daily thread #35

Posted on 04/02/2020 9:56:02 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: dfwgator

Yep, me too. no way I can do all that, I’m way too disorganized.

And then others are saying that video isn’t even proper procedure.


461 posted on 04/02/2020 6:56:20 PM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: Thud

“It is almost certain that, whether the Virus originated in an unofficial biowar lab, the official high-level security biological research lab in Wuhan (which almost certainly did bioweapon research), or the two known low-security biological research labs in Wuhan, the Virus was released by some poorly paid minions selling infected lab animals to the Wuhan exotic animals meat market rather than incinerating them as ordered. “

Dozens of genetic scientists have looked at this virus from every angle. Many have looked for tell-tale signs of human engineering.

Every one of them has said it’s naturally evolved.

Of course ALL of them could be either mistaken or lying.


462 posted on 04/02/2020 6:58:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: cgbg
From local news:

These coverings should not be medical-grade masks, officials said.

When needed, I'll wear what I have. N95, N100 or surgical mask.

463 posted on 04/02/2020 6:58:40 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: Raebie
LOL, a lot of people are turning into Anal-Retentive Chefs....


464 posted on 04/02/2020 6:58:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Just curious.....How far in advance did you have to place your delivery order?


465 posted on 04/02/2020 6:59:02 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: dfwgator

The frozen and perishable stuff you can deal with immediately.

If you have any bleach and a spray bottle, make a solution of dilute bleach spray. There are probably recipes on the net for this. I repurposed spray bottles to have a few. You can also use lysol if you have it.

Spray the bags down, especially the handles.

Using gloves or a wipe, remove the perishables and place them on the sidewalk. Spray the outside of the perishable packages and let them sit for 3-4 minutes (remaining damp).

Roll them over and spray the bottom.

Wipe down and place in freezer/fridge.

nonperishable stuff can sit for a week or 10 days. IF you have a large cooler type thingie, put it in there to keep ‘many legged friends’ out. Otherwise, spray down the bags really good and stash them, unpacked, for a few days. Make sure you don’t inadvertently touch the packaging while moving them. Wear gloves if you have to and I use hand sanitizer on the gloves before I remove them.

YMMV, of course.

We haven’t dealt with grocery store in a while but this is what we did the very last trip we made.

Since then we’ve gotten a few boxes delivered.

I spray them down on the driveway and leave them for 15m or so, spray them again (need to make sure they remain damp), roll them over, ditto ditto. Let them sit another hour or so and then let them quarantine in my garage for 10 days or so.


466 posted on 04/02/2020 6:59:09 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jane Long

I placed it on Sunday. I’ve made a few additions during the week, as you can modify it anytime before they start putting the order together.


467 posted on 04/02/2020 7:00:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: plushaye

“Virologists say a virus mostly mutates to not kill its host, otherwise it will die out with the host.”

Mutations are random. They can become more lethal - and burn out, or more mild and become not worth the bother. Spanish Flu is still with us today in a milder form.


468 posted on 04/02/2020 7:01:40 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: chris37

Someone here deals with chicken as if it is poison.

So you can view that video the same way.

If you pick up a cereal box that has the Wuhan that wants to kill you on it and then open it and take out the inside package....common sense says you could have just transferred it to the inside bag.

And this is a Dr trying to give tips.

There are just too many ways to cross contaminate ...just like with chicken.

Its too much for me to deal with. Easier just to put everything in a tote.

I figure sooner or later I am going to get Wuhan. Just trying to hold out until they figure out a medicine I can take at the beginning instead of when I am at death’s door.


469 posted on 04/02/2020 7:02:07 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: Varsity Flight

The US has well more than twice the population of Russia.


470 posted on 04/02/2020 7:02:17 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mariner

It isn’t BS. He’s right about the tribal nature of the PLA. Corruption and money move in many circles there, all with very conflicting motives.

The WuJing is the only arm of the PLA that is owned by Xi Jinping. The rest have differing loyalties, while pretending to kowtow to Beijing. Deng Xiaoping still carries a lot of power, and animosity.


471 posted on 04/02/2020 7:02:39 PM PDT by datura
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To: ETCM; cgbg

Will be be shunned (by docs, like that one vid, and others), for wearing our N95s?

You know, the ones that we, who were prepared, bought back in January...or, before?


472 posted on 04/02/2020 7:03:34 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: blueplum
I don't think the Z-Pak will help with viral infections. We have done work with Pantehine for repair of the blood brain barrier. Pantethine's function was first noted in treatment of malarial infection.

We don't know if the virus alters protein expression in the brain. It is still too early.

Best.
473 posted on 04/02/2020 7:04:23 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Mariner; mrsmith; LilFarmer; RetiredScientist; ReaganGeneration2; miserare; Badboo; Jane Long; ...
2 April COB numbers:

Numbers from https://www.worldometers.info. Smaller ratio numbers are better. Data not validated. YMMV for informational interest only. PM me if you would like on or off the ping list.

Significant drops in both US & UK ND/TD ratios. The US went from number of deaths doubling every 4 days to doubling every 5 days. This is significant because is reduces our projected deaths on 15 April by half, from 100,000 to 50,000!

France is having a tough time right now as you can see in the plot below.

Daily percentage of new Corona virus deaths to previous day's total by country. 25% = total deaths double every 3 days, 20% = every 4 days, 15% = every 5 days, 10% = about 1 week, 5% = about 2 weeks.

Nothing Follows.

474 posted on 04/02/2020 7:07:38 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Isn’t France updating numbers from Nursing Homes they weren’t previously including?


475 posted on 04/02/2020 7:08:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: datura; Thud

“It isn’t BS. He’s right about the tribal nature of the PLA. Corruption and money move in many circles there, all with very conflicting motives.”

That’s not relevant to the question I asked or the assertion I made. Because I certainly agree with the above quote.

He made an assertion about the origin of this virus. I’m drilling in on that.


476 posted on 04/02/2020 7:09:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yep, that’s the point. And the geographic expanse of Russia


477 posted on 04/02/2020 7:09:59 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: dfwgator

Isn’t France updating numbers from Nursing Homes they weren’t previously including?


Yes the first batch of data was in yesterdays update

471 new deaths from hospitals (old way)
850ish from nursing home backlogs


478 posted on 04/02/2020 7:11:02 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Hey, it’s not nice to call it Boomer Removal. That hits too close to home.”

Boomer Remover or Boomer Doomer.


479 posted on 04/02/2020 7:11:44 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: dfwgator

If so, that could very well explain the huge spike. Do you have any sources for that? Thanks.


480 posted on 04/02/2020 7:11:58 PM PDT by amorphous
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