Corona virus daily thread #35

[Mariner]

Yesterday is here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3830614/posts?q=1&;page=1

[PA Engineer]

Key Drugs Join PPEs on List of Front-Line Shortages

First it was a critical shortage of personal protective equipment. Then pleas for more ventilators to sustain patients with COVID-19 and providers to care for them. Now, multiple sources are reporting deepening shortages of the drugs needed to help ventilate patients and keep them sedated.

Shortages are already evident for albuterol; neuromuscular blockers and sedatives, including fentanyl, midazolam, and propofol; and vasopressors for septic shock, even as orders increase exponentially.

The rates at which hospitals traditionally had been able to fill orders for ventilator-associated drugs was 95%, Dan Kistner, PharmD, told Medscape Medical News.

"These classes of drugs have dropped to 60 or 70% in the last month alone," said Kistner, senior vice president for pharmacy solutions at Vizient, a group purchasing organization that negotiates medicine contracts for about 3000 hospitals and healthcare facilities in the US. "Every day it's dropping 2 or 3 additional percent," he continued.

Demand "Unprecedented"

The demand is simply "unprecedented," he said, adding that the shortages are piling up even after elective surgeries have been put on hold.

[PA Engineer]

Don’t know.

[Jane Long]

That’s awful....59 patients??? Six staff?

These nursing homes are sitting ducks.

[janetjanet998]

Jon Passantino
@passantino
First mandatory face mask order I’ve seen in the US:

San Diego County orders all essential business workers who interact with the public to wear face coverings, threatens fines up to $1,000 and 6 months jail for those who fail to comply.

[cgbg]

First mandatory face mask order I’ve seen in the US:

San Diego County orders all essential business workers who interact with the public to wear face coverings, threatens fines up to $1,000 and 6 months jail for those who fail to comply.

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1245866775993929728

[Thud]

ping

[Thud]

Hospitals refused to buy N95 masks or other PPE out of their usual supply chains until middle or late March. Any of those publically available before then, such as on Amazon or in the hardware store chaing of supply, were only purchased by the public.

But the CDC and other public medical officials, knowing that the hospitals would only buy through their existing supply chains then, lied to the public about the effectiveness of any kind of masks.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

How about letting them wear masks or not? They’re really getting nit-picky with the whole emergency powers thing.

[Thud]

You are supposed to get your Chinese CCP Virus statistics from the same location they get theirs - pulling them out of your own ***.

[Mariner]

“You are supposed to get your Chinese CCP Virus statistics from the same location they get theirs - pulling them out of your own ***.”

Seasoned Project Managers always defer to their assigned Subject Matter Experts.

Then mine and test the assumptions.

Trust me, it’s relevant to the quote.

[datura]

The only place you can get real Chinese data is from HK.

My sources have gone silent.

[datura]

Do you have any professional contacts on the Pacific Rim?

[Mariner]

“My sources have gone silent.”

Does that portend anything other than a second wave?

[Jane Long]

3M under fire with FL FEMA Director...selling inventory to foreign companies, over the USA.

[Jane Long]

EO coming out tomorrow to prevent ‘shady brokers’ selling med supplies to foreign sources.

[mrsmith]

https://twitter.com/hz_udhr/status/1245833276901732355

“NY reached a milestone yesterday: discharged > hospitalized for the first time (i.e. no net additional hospital beds needed).
The numbers will fluctuate, but the trend is encouraging.
@NYGovCuomo is still pursuing an astronomical number of hospital beds (140K in total).”

More discharged than admitted! Frankly, seems odd.

[datura]

Mostly I think it has to do with their AI surveillance systems.

I guess that’s why I check Epoch Times so often, they have sources inside. If the sources are locals, it’s hard for the authorities to root them out. Think Tet with a Chinese accent.

HK folks know the CCP is their enemy, normal Chinese people see the CCP almost as their savior. Stockholm Syndrome writ large.

[cgbg]

That is what bending the curve should look like—of course we don’t know if NY is really there yet.

[RummyChick]

silent as in the Missing Dr silent..or silent as in we dont want the Commies to bust down our door and arrest us.

[PA Engineer]

No.