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Corona virus daily thread #35

Posted on 04/02/2020 9:56:02 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: mrsmith

More discharged than admitted! Frankly, seems odd.


I think the daily new hospitalizations are the net change


421 posted on 04/02/2020 6:03:24 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Jane Long

Here is a Dr showing how to deal with grocery items

https://youtu.be/TKx-F4AKteE

But if you watch you can see just how hard it is to deal with it.

He picks up a cardboard cereal box that could have a Virus that wants to kill you.
Opens and takes out the package inside
Places it the sanitized area.

But image how you deal with raw chicken. Picture salmonella and chicken juice being on the outside of that box.

you just transferred it to the inside package via your hands.

I have a tub that I put my groceries to keep my dog from getting in them and just leave them there for the virus to die except for frozen and refrigerated


422 posted on 04/02/2020 6:05:03 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: janetjanet998

looks like 29,874 new US cases

968 new deaths

150 less NY state deaths were offset by a 100 net increase from NJ

(but NJ deaths were some backlog so hopefully not that high tomorrow)


423 posted on 04/02/2020 6:07:50 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: PA Engineer

Thank you - I thought it was possible. My contacts in Fujian and Guangzhou are either missing, sick, or have passed. My friend in Guangxi says life is still far from normal. Ex GF in HK silent.

In laws are employed by state owned industries, so their jobs are ok. Those who were employed by private companies in Shanghai have very bad odds of keeping their jobs.

IOW, China lies it’s ass off. We knew that.

So for anyone that uses their numbers, or any official reports, good luck. As for the medical community in China posting their research on their site (prior to govt scrutiny) I believe whole heartedly. They want truth to get out, we’ve seen that.


424 posted on 04/02/2020 6:10:16 PM PDT by datura
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To: Mariner

Thanks for Corona Virus Thread #34!


425 posted on 04/02/2020 6:10:29 PM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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To: Vermont Lt

They can get on the horn and hustle.


426 posted on 04/02/2020 6:10:57 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Mariner; cgbg; LilFarmer
P is just an a$$hole.

That reminds me.

China is Asshoe.™

427 posted on 04/02/2020 6:11:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: janetjanet998

How about the health risks of wearing one of those for hours of time?


428 posted on 04/02/2020 6:11:30 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: PA Engineer
"These classes of drugs have dropped to 60 or 70% in the last month alone," said Kistner, senior vice president for pharmacy solutions at Vizient, a group purchasing organization that negotiates medicine contracts for about 3000 hospitals and healthcare facilities in the US. "Every day it's dropping 2 or 3 additional percent," he continued.

That reminds, me, PA.

China is Asshoe.™

429 posted on 04/02/2020 6:13:05 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: cgbg

yesterday 12.226

37:48 here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffw6-F3uX0w&t=2459s

today
13,383

change +1157


430 posted on 04/02/2020 6:16:01 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: datura
There is someone I can check with. She emigrated here and was one of my wife's residents. We do need to call her and follow up on her wellbeing.

Won't know to probably this weekend. She was the one that gave us a private tour of China a few years back.
431 posted on 04/02/2020 6:18:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: RummyChick

what could possibly go wrong

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8182103/Dozens-attend-funeral-procession-rabbi-streets-Brooklyn-despite-social-distancing-rules.html


432 posted on 04/02/2020 6:20:09 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: Jane Long

Warning from sheriff’s dept. - “You’ve been egged” is another smh game. People hide eggs in their yard and let other people’s kids hunt them. Just don’t.


433 posted on 04/02/2020 6:22:32 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Thud
I posted this on the earlier thread, but it was way late so I'm reposting it here so more people can see it.

China is a lot stranger than that. There are regional and local People's Liberation Army (PLA) commanders, all generals, and all with budgets that they pretty much have discretionary control over. I.e., they like to use it for their retirement funds.

The central government is aware of this and periodically cracks down on "excessive" enthusiasm for this form of corruption. So the PLA commanders use these for social ranking competition with each other a la French aristocrats as depicted in the 1988 movie, Dangerous Liaisons.

I can't emphasize enough that social class and social competition are incredibly important in nominally classless "Communist" China. China has very much reverted to its past millennia of social ranking competition, but now with a Communist veneer on it.

One of the ways these regional and local PLA commanders conduct their social competition with each other is with use of their discretionary funds. Fear of anti-corruption crackdowns pushes this competition into use of these discretionary funds for things which might nominally benefit the state, as opposed to lavish lifestyles.

Among those things is biological weapons research. Which the central government doesn’t know about. When General Wang brags privately about his pet biowar researchers making some breakthrough, Generals Wing, Wong, Wu and Wung in his area get jealous and order their minions to develop something similar.

One of the attractions of secret (from the central government) biowar research as a means of social competition among Chinese potentates is possible use of the stuff by Chinese factions against each other in the event the central government collapses. The latter is never far from the minds of Chinese potentates, not because there is any visible immediate chance of it, but because they are all steeped in Chinese history and know it can happen pretty quick and without much warning.

Again, China is weird and some familiarity with Chinese history and culture is necessary to understand just how weird the place is.

AFAIK, there are hundreds, possibly more than a thousand, of itty-bitty ramshackle unofficial biowar labs all over China. With no standards and no oversight.

I am informed that a typical one will have maybe two researchers with appropriate degrees in charge (but neither with any real competence beyond their education), some technicians who know their way around a lab, one (1) security guy who is an idiot wastrel relative of the potentate funding the lab, and some minimally paid custodial minions. The lab itself has minimal security – at best it’s a converted jewelry store in a strip mall with one room having real security walls and a sturdy (nominally thief-proof) lockable door.

So the Wuhan Virus might have originated in one of these. It is almost certain that, whether the Virus originated in an unofficial biowar lab, the official high-level security biological research lab in Wuhan (which almost certainly did bioweapon research), or the two known low-security biological research labs in Wuhan, the Virus was released by some poorly paid minions selling infected lab animals to the Wuhan exotic animals meat market rather than incinerating them as ordered.

China is so class-ridden that security guys rarely pay attention to the lowest paid minions.

I mention these unofficial biowar labs only to show just how dangerous Communist China is to the entire world as a source of pandemics like the Wuhan Virus. It isn't just of random mutations among exotic animals in meat markets. The latter are just the means of lab viruses escaping.

China's Communist system of government, and its Communist Party, are inherent threats to the whole world because of their inherent authoritarianism and corruption. Coupled with the weird Chinese culture’s preference for exotic meat animals. The corruption inherent in the Chinese Communist state means the latter will never be closed down – at best they’ll pretend for a while and then ignore the subject.

We can EXPECT more pandemics from China to get out as long as China's Communist Party exists – this Virus is the third to break out in 20 years (SARS in 2002, Swine Flu in 2009, and Wuhan in 2019). The only question is how we can minimize that threat.

434 posted on 04/02/2020 6:22:33 PM PDT by Thud
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To: grey_whiskers

Yep. They CCP declared war on the world.


435 posted on 04/02/2020 6:23:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: RummyChick

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8182571/Jazz-guitarist-Bucky-Pizzarelli-dies-94-home-New-Jersey-testing-positive-COVID-19.html


436 posted on 04/02/2020 6:24:42 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: Thud

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/11289817/steph-mcgovern-anton-du-beke-thong-face-mask/

Well, there’s always these...

What, too soon?


437 posted on 04/02/2020 6:26:00 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Jane Long

We need to ask Cuomo about supplies being delivered at the front door of hospitals but leaving out the back door.


438 posted on 04/02/2020 6:27:37 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: PA Engineer

XieXie Ni


439 posted on 04/02/2020 6:30:08 PM PDT by datura
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To: PA Engineer

But don’t go thinking it’s just China. Steve Pieczenik knows whereof he speaks:

https://twitter.com/StevePieczenik/status/1245886065686298625


440 posted on 04/02/2020 6:31:47 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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