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Corona virus daily thread #35

Posted on 04/02/2020 9:56:02 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday is here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3830614/posts?q=1&;page=1


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To: Mariner

So why don’t you believe the claims by so many noted scientists that the public doesn’t need to wear masks for protection against CV19?


541 posted on 04/02/2020 8:34:00 PM PDT by Thud
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To: mrsmith

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/02/826105278/ventilators-are-no-panacea-for-critically-ill-covid-19-patients?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Article on ventilators.
In a Brit study 33 of 98 covid patients on ventilators were released alive.


542 posted on 04/02/2020 8:34:09 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: calenel
we don’t have any way to get an exact number,

I'm surprised at that. Way back at first someone offered that a 200K sample would be sufficient to predict 360M. Well, we now have 3 mil tested, or 1 in 360. So shouldn't we be able to predict infection rate from the results of 3M?

543 posted on 04/02/2020 8:35:57 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: CJ Wolf

“Black Swan”


544 posted on 04/02/2020 8:36:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mrsmith

A smart man would buy that milk at half price and make cheese an butter from it.


545 posted on 04/02/2020 8:40:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Pollster1

“In the real world, “unknown” would just mean that the information was not reported. In California, it probably really means the patient cannot figure it out.”

You have to wait to see which bathroom they use. Two out of three times, just to be sure.


546 posted on 04/02/2020 8:40:49 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Alcibiades

“I’m on the spectrum of it isn’t a hoax. It is very serious, more serious than the flu by a significant factor, but it isn’t the Black Plague either.”

You are exactly right.


547 posted on 04/02/2020 8:44:09 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Thud

“So why don’t you believe the claims by so many noted scientists that the public doesn’t need to wear masks for protection against CV19?”

Because I know, as does any rational person, that masks work.


548 posted on 04/02/2020 8:44:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mrsmith

https://twitter.com/ChinaBeigeBook/status/1245898717670051840

“”#China has approved use of bear bile to treat #coronavirus,...”

Good grief!


549 posted on 04/02/2020 8:45:42 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: grey_whiskers
We began taking pantethine (disulfide bond of pantetheine), NAC and taurine based on our metabolic model two years ago.

We prophylactically take it based on the outcomes of our research into neurodegeneraton. This was supported by miRNA expression we found in patients.

All are natural metabolites, exceptionally safe and are key entry points to the sulfur cycle.

Before recommending pantethine, we did exhaustive searches in the literature and were surprised by over 800 references. Why it is not be used today is simply the corruption of modern medicine. The malaria finding was just one of a number.

I was searching for a good review article (for you) and stumbled on an important "new" publication. I'm grateful you asked me. I haven't been keeping up the past couple of months.

Inhibiting extracellular vesicles formation and release: a review of EV inhibitors

You can skip to the section on Pantethine.

Please feel free to ask any other questions. I'll be happy to share.
550 posted on 04/02/2020 8:48:20 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: calenel

I disagree. IMO the FluBros are trying to convince THEMSELVES that they’re right, because it would be just tragic if they weren’t. It’s their chosen means of dealing with their own cognitive dissonance.


551 posted on 04/02/2020 8:48:55 PM PDT by Thud
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To: grey_whiskers

Love it.


552 posted on 04/02/2020 8:51:45 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Did you see the thread on the main forum regarding the new peptide string MIT discovered?


553 posted on 04/02/2020 8:52:56 PM PDT by datura
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To: mrsmith

“China is to mourn #COVID19 victims on Saturday. National flags will fly at half-mast. Public recreational activities will be suspended. People will observe 3 minutes of silence and air raid sirens and horns of cars, trains and ships will wail in grief.”


554 posted on 04/02/2020 8:53:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: PA Engineer; grey_whiskers

Thank you; I’m running behind (blueplum emailed me some scientific references on viruses around 11 days ago and I still haven’t read them).

I’ll see if I can catch up — I was working till 3AM yesterday and up at 7 again.

...and Goldberry is waiting.


555 posted on 04/02/2020 8:55:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Certainly their government is. As for the Chinese people themselves. I like a very great many of them. A country's leaders/government (communist party in this case), are what make a country an Asshoe™ or not, imho...:)

Before the communist took over China, thousands and thousands of Chinese people died while rescuing our downed B-25 pilots after the Doolittle mission to bomb Tokyo.

I will always have a place in my heart for the Chinese people themselves for saving our air crews during world war II from fates worse than death.

Then there are the thousands upon thousands of persecuted Chinese Christians who risk everything to spread the Word of God in their country.

Yeah, I really like the Chinese people. Most I've personally known are super smart, hard working, honest, and dedicated. I even once had a Chinese doctor, who I know, without any doubt in my mind, saved my grandmother's life once.

:)

556 posted on 04/02/2020 8:55:48 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: datura

Send me the link, on the MIT-discovered peptide ?
(Sorry for interrupting.)


557 posted on 04/02/2020 8:56:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Thud; mrsmith; blueplum; PA Engineer; Black Agnes; Vermont Lt

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1245876816922972162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthedonald.win%2F

Trump Tweet about 3M and masks...


558 posted on 04/02/2020 8:58:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: blueplum

Ty, and back at ya! :)


559 posted on 04/02/2020 8:59:36 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: mrsmith

That actually is a data point. A cruel one considering other bile salts may be useful in treatment. Traditional Chinese medicine uses bear bile and they do achieve “certain” results. I suspect pharmaceutical grade would be just as effective and related to lipid alterations with the virus. ACE2 is highly expressed in the gallbladder and lesser extent in the liver. This would indicate the virus is disrupting bile metabolism either secondary or conjugated.


560 posted on 04/02/2020 9:00:04 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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