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By the numbers: How coronavirus compares with the flu, opioid overdoses
Just the News ^ | 27 Mar, 2020 | Sarah Attkisson

Posted on 03/28/2020 8:39:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Amid ever-changing models, it's hard to put a finger on just how dangerous the coronavirus is.

We know at this point that COVID-19 — the disease caused by the coronavirus — has led to more than 85,356 illnesses and more than 1,246 deaths in U.S.

For comparison, the flu has caused an estimated 38 million illnesses, 30,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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When it comes to lives claimed by the opioid epidemic, for example, in 2018, the most recent year available from the CDC, nearly 47,000 died from opioid-related causes. That accounts for the majority of drug overdose deaths in the U.S. numbering above 67,000.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: panic
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To: dp0622

Yep - took a couple psychology classes “back when” and the ways that people not only allow themselves to be manipulated are not nearly as puzzling as that so many actually wish to be manipulated.


41 posted on 03/28/2020 9:48:00 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: luv2ski

Leave it up to the states.


42 posted on 03/28/2020 10:17:06 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: MtnClimber

l8r


43 posted on 03/28/2020 10:29:11 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: luv2ski

Who cares. Facts are facts. The bellyachers will go broke too at this rate.


44 posted on 03/28/2020 10:32:21 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Might as well cut your leg off to cure a headache. Destroy America because of a flu.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does everyone seem to think that comparing the number of cases in a few weeks of COVID-19 with a SEASON of seasonal flu tells us anything about how great this crisis is.

As of today, there are over 105,000 cases of COVID-19 in the US and the numbers are growing rapidly.


45 posted on 03/28/2020 10:32:55 AM PDT by newberger (Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.)
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To: FreedomPoster
How did they manage to do massive testing, when testing is just now becoming widely available?

They were offering tests to anyone who wanted one, even if no symptoms. I think they had tested between 2,000 and 3,000 people. Population is only about 300,000 so the percentage is very large compared to USA tests. They have a better cross section of population compared to the USA where very sick people make up the majority of the population tested.

46 posted on 03/28/2020 10:45:43 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Coronavirus is the flu and was originally called SARS-CoV-2. According to Yale medicine, influenza (the flu) and COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, are both infectious respiratory illnesses. Although the symptoms of COVID-19 and the flu can look similar, the two illnesses are caused by different viruses.

So has every other flu that has come along over the last 50 years. If they were the same, why do we need to develope vaccines for them every year? They are different just like C-19.

The term pandemic is being used for this outbreak. The most deadly pandemic in history was the Spanish flu of 1918. But it was called a flu. This one should be also. They play word games so they can separate it and aim it. It’s a way of applying blame. Not a different problem.

rwood


47 posted on 03/28/2020 10:58:52 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: McGruff

In the “other” category, what else might be included besides homicides? Certain diseases, but which? Just wondering if there are examples.


48 posted on 03/28/2020 10:59:18 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: TheWriterTX

I heard that steroids could make this worse. I have no idea how valid that idea is, but you mentioning it makes me wonder.


49 posted on 03/28/2020 11:03:10 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We are on day 12 of 15 of the presidents directive. It’s over Monday

They clearly stated yesterday during the news conference that that is exactly what’s going to happen next week because they’re going to separate areas in to hi lo and medium risk with new directives


50 posted on 03/28/2020 11:37:25 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: SeekAndFind

You realize the clinicians are counting nearly every “covid” looking death as covid, right? Even those that are something else and the deceased patient is never tested or confirmed to have covid? This comes right from the CDC.


51 posted on 03/28/2020 11:37:25 AM PDT by FreeThinker33
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To: gibsonguy
He has to play the game now. The MSM/DNC won, they set this trap and all he can do is be smart and fight his way out. He did a great job of pivoting when he could see there was no other way but he is walking a tight rope and everyone is throwing things at him. The fact that millions of Americans have lost fortunes is unimportant when compared to the possibility of taking out Trump.

Yes, that's exactly what happened, he even alluded to that in one of the earlier press conferences, inferring they caught him by surprise.

And he's doing ONE DAMN FINE JOB of working his way out of it.

52 posted on 03/28/2020 11:47:40 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: trebb

“people not only allow themselves to be manipulated are not nearly as puzzling as that so many actually wish to be manipulated.”
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Interesting.


53 posted on 03/28/2020 11:47:52 AM PDT by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: xenia

You’d be surprised at how easy it is to produce behavioral and attitude changes in folks - and how the process can snowball....look at how many now accept without any consternation so many societal changes that would have had armed folks in the streets 50 years ago...most of us claim to hate the PC movement while actually following many if the diktats of it...(the word “diktats” is a purposeful hint at what I’m saying)...


54 posted on 03/28/2020 11:51:52 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Truthoverpower

“They clearly stated yesterday during the news conference that that is exactly what’s going to happen next week because they’re going to separate areas in to hi lo and medium risk with new directives.”

Fantastic! As it should be. KAG! :)


55 posted on 03/28/2020 11:57:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FreedomPoster
That’s one of our big problems with this.

On another site, I saw an article about how a large increase in burial urns being ordered by the government in Hubei Province indicates something. I thought - its come to this? Its like Kremlin-watching the former Soviet Union. The media is tacitly admitting they know so little about China, and so distrust Chinese Government statistics, that they must resort to reports like this to guess what is really happening there.

56 posted on 03/28/2020 12:35:09 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

We likely have millions of cases of covid, like the flu but people are not going to doc for mild symptoms as we’ve been directed. In the long run this chart’s death rate is way too high. It should say death rate for severest cases of elderly patients with serious preexisting illness.


57 posted on 03/28/2020 1:04:43 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever. my)
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To: PGR88

Tai Foy May Li?

Or more likely, Dr. Ho Lee Fuq, rearcher at Wuhan Biomedical Research Lab for Peace and Harmony with degrees from University of Michigan and Harvard.


58 posted on 03/28/2020 1:11:39 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever. my)
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To: xenia

One example is “Stockholm Syndrome” - this is like that on a huge scale...


59 posted on 03/29/2020 3:22:53 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: TheWriterTX; UNGN; billyboy15

TheWriterTX — how are you now? If I might ask, did you have any underlying health symptoms before this?


60 posted on 03/29/2020 11:34:44 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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