Posted on 03/26/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #27 here:
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Just listened to some of that Dr. He does mention that Herxheimer reaction and how you might have to start slow
“Going to the grocery store on a cool, damp rainy day sounds like a bad idea. Well, actually, we sorta knew that!”
I recall a youtube where the guy showed a map of the world and the highest concentrations of CV. It was a fairly narrow band running from central china, through Italy, New York, Washington.
Then he showed a map of the average temperatures and humidity - it had a similar pattern. Just guessing, but something like 41 to 54 degrees F and humidity of 40 to 60%.
But then he took the data too far I think, and timed his grocery runs when temp/humidity was outside that range. Although there might be some rational to it.
Found the following paper on SARS which talks about temperature and humidity. It is above 95% humidity! I’m going to have to buy eight more humidifiers! Here in Seattle today on a drizzly damp day it is at 75%.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/av/2011/734690/
The main route of transmission of SARS CoV infection is presumed to be respiratory droplets. However the virus is also detectable in other body fluids and excreta. The stability of the virus at different temperatures and relative humidity on smooth surfaces were studied. The dried virus on smooth surfaces retained its viability for over 5 days at temperatures of 22–25°C and relative humidity of 40–50%, that is, typical air-conditioned environments. However, virus viability was rapidly lost (>3 log10) at higher temperatures and higher relative humidity (e.g., 38°C, and relative humidity of >95%). The better stability of SARS coronavirus at low temperature and low humidity environment may facilitate its transmission in community in subtropical area (such as Hong Kong) during the spring and in air-conditioned environments. It may also explain why some Asian countries in tropical area (such as Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand) with high temperature and high relative humidity environment did not have major community outbreaks of SARS.
I said it’s not made in America. Full Stop.
If you read the article you posted, besides the soundbite of a Chinese lady at first wondering if a CV had come from her lab, taken completely out of context to prove some conspiracy point, she also described how that same lab scrambled to try to identify that same CV because nobody had seen it before, a point never mentioned in context of a conspiracy theory. (So a contradictory statement but thanks for not pointing at the USA, Chinese lady). If you will read further down that same article, it describes exactly what I said about the sars bats, and the sars-antibody villagers.
The only question at hand is, did China, a totalitarian third-world nation with glitter, promote worldwide transfer of an epidemic in order to exploit that epidemic for their own childish and shortsighted benefit? Not the USA, Not Canada, Not the UK, Not Italy, Not Germany, CCP CHINA.
I really dont know what your point is and my eyes glaze over
IN MY OPINION, it ***IS*** possible to manufacturer this virus. Chapel HIll proves.
Your article does not prove it isnt possible
You can believe whatever you want
There is NOTHING you have posted that proves it didnt come from a lab
FULL STOP
At Google there are a number of articles regarding problems with Covid-19 in the Middle East, and political aspects. The Sunni Muslims go to Mecca for their great Haj once in a lifetime. Shiites apparently have a circuit of shrines in several countries that they travel to within a year. Qom in Iran is a major infective source. People making their circuit are bringing Covid-19 back to Saudi Arabia, Barei(sp), Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, etc. This is also causing conflict between the Sunni and Shiite factions in these countries.
38 deg. C = 100.4 deg. F, at 95% humidity? That’s soup! Campbells, homemade, or whatever brand one prefers...
38 deg. C = 100.4 deg. F, at 95% humidity? That’s soup! Campbells, homemade, or whatever brand one prefers...
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The Great China Plague of 2020 (daily thread #23)
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always remember:
When you die from AIDS, you actually die from something else, also.
The lower classes are more or less abiding because they are still able to work in construction and roofing and grocers and trucking, and ag, not much not normal for them, except staying under groups of 10 and the kids at home. The seniors are stuck in their homes with the middle-classers. Hotels, b2bs, and short-term rentals are being banned. The rich have their dogwalkers and landscapers; their manicurists and hair dressers and personal trainers still do housecalls, the latest fashions from Paris are delivered Fed-X. And half the country has no clue how high the risk is in the infected half.
Ancedotal rumors today in my area of a 6pm curfew - ‘critical worker’ exemption slips allegedly given to Costco peeps - source Costco peep. Not so anecdotal is the Homestead, FL curfew. It’s a crazy world.
https://www.cityofhomestead.com/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=3336
Chicoms lie anyway.
I upped my game, now up yours.
Right. Catch anyone blaming those deaths on another illness.
Although not exactly the same thing. You get the illness you die of with AIDS because of your lowered immune system.
With COVID 19, you already had the disease you die of before you got COVID. COVID just makes it fatal.
Could be a distinction without a difference in political terms.
the silver lining is, if India is deploying HCO on a widescale basis, they will keep data, and good data; from a large base. So we’ll know pretty quickly how effective it is, alone or with a compliment, as a prophylactic and/or treatment. If they start their studies now before they ramp up into 80-100K cases, (they’re about 1K now) we’ll get data much faster than we can learn in the US.
Anyone watching Tucker??
Great show with LOTs of great stats/info.
Italy:
919 deaths, today....NOT dropping, like we thought might be happening.
Death rate could be 2, 3 or 4%
In city of Dolomine (?) 70 people died...only 2 were not CV. This time LAST year, only 18 deaths, for the YEAR.
In city of Bagnatica (??) 18 people died, last month. Only 28 people died, over 12 mos., in this town, last year.
This is the kind of info I’ve been wanting to compare....this year’s death rates, compared to last years.
Tucker says too little info is being provided, to make any determinations.
Also interviewed Dr Steve Kassapidis...the NYC critical care doc who was interviewed, on the street, about the tragic situations in NYC ERs, right now.
Dr Steve said that he’s seeing deaths in 30 - 80 year olds....many with NO underlying issues. His entire interview was eyeopening and very sad.
He is on plaquenil as a prophylactic.
I’ve noticed that Li Keqiang, who’s running Wuhan’s Pandemic Response right now, has been more quoted in the news lately. The public directive for reporting ‘transparency’, came with his signature. Not so much news on Xi.
US latest CV death stats:
Total deaths: 1,695
Deaths today: 400
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
On that same chart, Diamond Princess is still showing 105 active cases.
The first cases were identified on February 4:
Great medical care is keeping these folks alive, but that is an amazingly long recovery time.
We cannot get a true death rate for the ship until these 105 cases are resolved with either death or recovery.
Sad that they’re doing that. Their hospitals are getting slammed with actual COVID respiratory cases, and they’re trivializing these folks by exaggerating the death rate.
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