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Corona Virus Daily Thread #28

Posted on 03/26/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #27 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828191/posts?page=1


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To: CodeToad

No, I was making a point of logic.

If there are no ICU beds on the visiting hospital ships, then they are obviously not for corona patients.

And they aren’t. We’ve been told that as WELL as being able to figure it out for ourselves.


921 posted on 03/27/2020 8:42:47 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Pretty sure it’s been mentioned repeatedly that the ships are for the regular patients so they don’t have to worry about infecting them in a regular hospital.

Non CV people will get care on the ships.


922 posted on 03/27/2020 8:44:46 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Solson

Part of the test: will people actually attack LEOs enforcing martial law?

Solzhenitsyn wrote about this: “How we burned in the camps . . .”

Had they assaulted and killed those charged with enforcing the policies, the chances are the camps wouldn’t have worked.

It’ll be interesting.

This is an op.


923 posted on 03/27/2020 8:44:48 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Jane Long

Or maybe it’s that we’re not afraid of being real.......


924 posted on 03/27/2020 8:44:52 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; RummyChick; Black Agnes; BusterDog; All

India holding on to their HCO pills...

Coronavirus: Health Ministry Declares Hydroxychloroquine A Schedule H1 Drug; Here’s What It Means (India declares it “essential” for treatment for CORVID-19)

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3828865/posts


925 posted on 03/27/2020 8:45:10 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

time to start doing whatever protocols they believe in and fast


926 posted on 03/27/2020 8:45:41 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Black Agnes
rollcons and some might even be wumao.

What do those mean?

927 posted on 03/27/2020 8:46:12 AM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: Jane Long

Can’t say as I blame them.

Just another reason we need to bring medical manufacturing back NOW.

It absolutely validates Trump’s push to do that.


928 posted on 03/27/2020 8:46:35 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RinaseaofDs

You do realize that quarantines and their enforcement are a part of juris prudence that’s been adjudicated over hundreds of years, right? In this country in fact.

We just haven’t had to use them in about 100 years.


929 posted on 03/27/2020 8:46:35 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Mariner

Good Info..

* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.
* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.
* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).
By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.
* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.
* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.
* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.
* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.
* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.
* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
-between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
-4 hours (copper and wood)
-24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal) and
-72 hours (plastic).
But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.
* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.
* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.
* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.
* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.
* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.
* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.
* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.
* You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.
* You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.
* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.
-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL


930 posted on 03/27/2020 8:47:12 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: firebrand

“If there are no ICU beds on the visiting hospital ships, then they are obviously not for corona patients.”

They said the ships are to move the non Covid-19 patients into to free up regular hospital rooms.


931 posted on 03/27/2020 8:50:41 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: IamConservative

Thanks for this great info!!

I remember reading something, early on, about using coconut oil, on dry hands (from all of the hand washing). That is also adds a protective layer.

I mix a pea sized amount, with hand lotion.


932 posted on 03/27/2020 8:51:32 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: riri

Out there in the real world (N CT), everyone of all political persuasions is polite, gives everyone space, waves to people they have never waved to before—everyone.

I think some of the crazier FR posters are posting from their mom’s basement.


933 posted on 03/27/2020 8:52:28 AM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: IamConservative

those are interesting points

here is an example of some of it

I was in front of one of those machines they use to clean floors. the kind you stand on and zoom around in a grocery store.
I cant estimate how far back but it was many aisles behind me.

I thought do I need to get away from this guy in the back of my head but he was pretty far back.

But as he got closer as I was walking in front of him... I started sneezing.

He was kicking up a lot of something with that machine and it was coming at me from many aisles away

Thank god it wasnt the virus...but it shows how far stuff can project


934 posted on 03/27/2020 8:52:50 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RinaseaofDs

“Part of the test: will people actually attack LEOs enforcing martial law?”

Not if the US Army is a part of it, and the US Army may be the only institution we have that can hold it together.

I assume, too, that every US soldier has proper PPE and that the US Army has the resources to provide the healthcare for their soldiers.


935 posted on 03/27/2020 8:53:50 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Jane Long

one of the posts on that texags site talked about a coconut oil product that might help with transporting the zinc. dont remember the exact name
monolaurel or something like that


936 posted on 03/27/2020 8:56:02 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Black Agnes

“probably involves blood serum from live infants. hey, maybe this is why they want the abortion clinics open still...”

Nah, they need to keep producing dead or they miss their quarterly quotas and CCP-19 isn’t killing people fast enough yet.


937 posted on 03/27/2020 8:56:07 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: BusterDog

He failed to answer a very basic math question that someone with 1 semester, never mind “5 semesters of statistics classes” should have known off the cuff. In fact, he disappeared right after I asked him.


938 posted on 03/27/2020 8:59:17 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

Trump ORDERS GM to open their shuttered Ohio plant and ‘start making ventilators NOW’ as he threatens to invoke special defense powers claiming company tried to price gouge

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8160225/Donald-Trumps-plan-GM-make-thousands-live-saving-ventilators-chaos.html


939 posted on 03/27/2020 9:00:49 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Black Agnes

I do.

I’m simply pointing out that there will be those in various places looking on to see how we all behave in this. It’s been largely held that there is a gun behind every blade of grass here in the US.

Folks will be monitoring to see how true that is.

There is debate as to how much relinquishment of rights is enough.


940 posted on 03/27/2020 9:04:18 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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