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Corona Virus Daily Thread #28

Posted on 03/26/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #27 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828191/posts?page=1


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To: cgbg

It’s clear many of them don’t have to leave the house.


941 posted on 03/27/2020 9:05:21 AM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: null and void

>>The Lancet used a 14 day offset between deaths and recoveries in their calculations.

slight problem with that... 120% of Chinese virus deaths get reported, but tens of thousands, maybe over a hundred thousand “recoveries” do not get reported because after a positive test, for an individual with only mild symptoms, they get sent home to self-quarantine, and get better without hospital help. There is no one to ever see or test that patient again, and declare them recovered.


942 posted on 03/27/2020 9:06:20 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Congress: Add clarification that CO2 is a PLANT FOOD, not a pollutant covered by the Clean Air Act)
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To: calenel
This is a must read:

Shiraz Maher @ShirazMaher Historian | Director @icsr_centre | Lecturer, War Studies, Kings College London | Adjunct, Johns Hopkins

https://twitter.com/ShirazMaher/status/1243554346396246018

I've been debating about whether to 'go public' on having coronavirus - which I kind of did inadvertently this morning. So, now I may as well share my experience(s) with you in order to help those who are worried about it or who are thinking they might have it. Here goes... 1/— Shiraz Maher (@ShirazMaher) March 27, 2020




943 posted on 03/27/2020 9:06:57 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: cgbg

Look at this picture:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1243528224895893508

NYC cops wearing masks.

_Somebody_ _finally_ gets it.


944 posted on 03/27/2020 9:10:53 AM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: cgbg

I do not attribute any bad motives to the Unicorn crowd.

I just think they are newbies to the game, making newbie mistakes.

They do not understand how long it takes for most people to fully recover from this virus. There are still folks on the first Princess ship still sick with it almost two months later.

There are probably less than 10,000 Unicorns in the whole country imho—they had no symtoms and have no symptoms—good luck finding one!
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You aren’t taking into consideration the potential number of people who DID have symptoms, although very mild. People that never sought care or were tested, because they fought it off relatively quickly.


945 posted on 03/27/2020 9:13:44 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: RinaseaofDs

Folks have always monitored such.

Reconstruction was a very informative thing.

When they start asking for loyalty oaths you can get worried.


946 posted on 03/27/2020 9:18:20 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: RummyChick

“Trump ORDERS GM to open their shuttered Ohio plant and ‘start making ventilators NOW’ “

What they do, not what they say.

Saying it is “a bad flu” (saying a lion is just a bad kitty) isn’t a flat-out lie, just misleading (a flu is just a bad cold by the same logic, all of these are corona virus variants). But if it’s just a bad flu, why are we gonna need all those ventilators and at such urgency that President Trump needs to threaten?

And is the war more desperate than we think? Lots of people are already making ventilators or introducing other innovations to improve efficiency in what we have.


947 posted on 03/27/2020 9:19:26 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Future Useless Eater
There are no shortage of slight problems.

At no point in human history have people who didn't need medical care been counted as "sick" until now.

Counting asymptomatic people who fail a PCR test or an antibody test as "sick" skews the reported statistics when compared to epidemics of only a few years ago.

No getting around that, and it's the reset point for all future data sets.

We just need to recognize that in the older statistics, only those sick enough to see a doctor cases were counted in the denominator, and current and future mortality rates have/will have a "falsely" (actually a more accurate) number of infections and therefore show a lower mortality rate on paper.

948 posted on 03/27/2020 9:20:29 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Future Useless Eater

“120% of Chinese virus deaths get reported”

Explain that, please.


949 posted on 03/27/2020 9:21:13 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

All of these calculations may be important to those in politics trying to make decisions about future course of actions but they are completely MEANINGLESS to me.

This is Wuhan Roulette. You are staking your life on the wheel. You have no idea where you will end up as the Wuhan Virus spins around in your body.

I prefer trying to avoid the damn thing altogether:

From someone who has it:

Shiraz Maher
@ShirazMaher
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Some are shaking it off relatively easily. Others are suffering very badly. The most difficult part of this is the extent to which it takes hold within your lungs. There’s just no way to tell what will happen at the start. You need to watch this symptom if it develops. 20/

Coronavirus appears to have a completely different trajectory in different people. I can’t spot a pattern


950 posted on 03/27/2020 9:21:13 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All
It is a lot of people . . . . From an Aussie rights activist with anti CCP bent.

The #Chinese people have finally risen against the #CCP.

Thousands clashed with police when people from #Hubei were not allowed to enter #Jiangxi.

Could this be the beginning of the end for the Chinese Communist Party? pic.twitter.com/nOXT7Kipwo— Arslan Hidayat (@arslan_hidayat) March 27, 2020


951 posted on 03/27/2020 9:22:22 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: BusterDog

Would be interesting if the end result, is the end of the ChiComs and the Mullahs in Iran.


952 posted on 03/27/2020 9:23:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Raebie

Please watch this video—Chris Martenson will walk you through the numbers, blow by blow.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w

He _really_ know his stuff—please watch.


953 posted on 03/27/2020 9:23:24 AM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: BusterDog

We speculated as much 2 months ago.

I don’t predict Xi will survive this.

China, as a whole entity, might not survive this.

Think USSR 1990 vs. 1993.


954 posted on 03/27/2020 9:23:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: BusterDog

“Could this be the beginning of the end for the Chinese Communist Party?”

Is there any way we can push it along?

Side benefit would be the end of secret funding to the ‘Rats if the CCP is overthrown.


955 posted on 03/27/2020 9:24:17 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

What would replace it?


956 posted on 03/27/2020 9:25:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Black Agnes

“China, as a whole entity, might not survive this.”

China will always be China, but Tibet and maybe the rest of Mongolia might break free.


957 posted on 03/27/2020 9:25:41 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: RummyChick

Really good point.

Statistics are not much help for most folks.

If you average my income with that of Bill Gates, you might think we were both rich. ;-)


958 posted on 03/27/2020 9:26:31 AM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: dfwgator

“What would replace it?”

Probably something inward-looking like post Soviet Russia. We’d get a few decades of less harassment as they focused on rebuilding and restoring regional relationships.

All speculative.


959 posted on 03/27/2020 9:29:01 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: All

New daily thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3828913/posts


960 posted on 03/27/2020 9:29:28 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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