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Chinese Virus daily Thread #22

Posted on 03/20/2020 11:06:55 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #21 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3826151/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid19; cvlivethread; hysterics; noflubros; wuflu; wuhan; wuhansarscov2
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To: GOPJ

There is another way, my FRiend.

Quarantine the big cities—when enough tests are available city folks would need to test negative if they wanted to leave. If there are not enough tests, they cannot leave the quarantine area.

_Then_ you can open for business.


941 posted on 03/21/2020 9:27:21 AM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: BenLurkin

“New York says liquor stores are ‘essential,’ can stay open”

At least they haven’t completely lost their minds.

Of note: Here in CA we buy our liquor in the grocery stores. And they remain well stocked.


942 posted on 03/21/2020 9:28:28 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GOPJ

Without a full quarantine for 15 days, you cannot ID all the sick, much less the asymptomatic carriers.


943 posted on 03/21/2020 9:30:34 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: All

#BREAKING UPDATE: #NYC COVID-19 cases rise to 7,530 — approximately 1,300 higher than Cuomo announced an hour ago — with 45 deaths https://t.co/06G5TcqckM— NBC New York (@NBCNewYork) March 21, 2020


944 posted on 03/21/2020 9:31:31 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: scouter

The way the CFR varies by outbreak location, I tend to believe we’re seeing more virulent mutated strain in certain locations. Some attribute it to populations with more elderly, and smoking, etc, however I remember talk of different strains and now not so much.


945 posted on 03/21/2020 9:31:37 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: All

New daily thread here...

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3826809/posts


946 posted on 03/21/2020 9:35:17 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Pollard

IOW, half the workforce.


947 posted on 03/21/2020 9:39:18 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Mariner

We ID the sick AFTER a 14 day shutdown... there will be fewer of them after a shutdown.

Then every person is temp checked before they enter their place of employment, school, city transportation, etc.

The task is to shut down virus carriers NOT shut down the economy, office buildings, schools, etc.


948 posted on 03/21/2020 9:39:35 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeZlKu8M7A)
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To: Pollard

Chinese Virus presser about to start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czayodBQ3o NBC
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=coronavirus+press+conference+live&sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253D Search results for coronavirus press conference filtered by Live


949 posted on 03/21/2020 9:39:47 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: DoodleBob

Proportionally, 8MM/1.4bn = 0.57%. For perspective, this loss of life would equate to 1.9MM in the US and 286k in Hubei. That’s big, and it would would get YUGE airtime even on Social Media. China isn’t NK; word would get out. Parenthetically, only 68k got Coronavirus in Hubei.

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Chinese social media is fee and open just like in the West so nothing is suppressed which is why people who are around one day have disappeared on the next never to be seen again. Any one in China reporting on social media anything like the truth, no matter how shocking, just disappears and there have been a few who tried before they too vanished. Word may get out in a decade or so, but not now. It was decades before anyone learned what really happened in ‘89.

Making up comparison numbers, presuming assumptions and drawing conclusions is just unreal. Wait! that’s what the CCP does too!


950 posted on 03/21/2020 9:39:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: scouter

we should cancel all our debt to China as compensation.

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good idea, but will only happen after Hillary is tried, convicted, and sentenced to life.


951 posted on 03/21/2020 9:41:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: TermLimits4All

I found the article


952 posted on 03/21/2020 9:42:05 AM PDT by TermLimits4All (A coup on the people's President, will result in bloodshed. Be prepared always.)
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To: amorphous

The L strain is in Italy. The S strain is on the west coast.

L is the strain designation. I remember it as “Lethal.” The S strain just makes you sick.

The last time I heard this discussed the doc on TV said it didn’t matter. I think he was a very goof looking podiatrist.

I have no idea if they are relevant.


953 posted on 03/21/2020 9:45:46 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: cgbg

We need our large cities... if we quarantined them they would sit there like a beached cruise ship...spreading the virus back and forth between each other. Yes, most of them are democrats but for the duration of the crisis we need to just see these people as ‘fellow citizens’...


954 posted on 03/21/2020 9:46:56 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeZlKu8M7A)
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To: cgbg

Hemp is reusable.


955 posted on 03/21/2020 9:47:56 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: amorphous

Also, without waste disposal services running, might some of sulfur dioxide plumes be from burning of trash?


there were no trash fires - bio-waste perhaps; even if there was one fire, it would not emit that much sulfur dioxide, day after day week after week, and be visible from space; nor would it be in the center of the city where many crematoriums (running 24/7) are (coincidentally) located.


956 posted on 03/21/2020 9:48:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: bgill

yeah but it was about toilet facilities for the truckers


957 posted on 03/21/2020 9:50:31 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: EBH

Ebola and Henipah are Level 4 pathogens, meaning they’re some of the deadliest viruses in the world. They must be contained in a lab with the highest level of biosafety control, such as the one in Winnipeg.

Two months after that shipment, on May 24, the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) referred an “administrative matter” to RCMP that resulted in the removal of two Chinese research scientists — Xiangguo Qiu and Keding Cheng — and several international students on July 5.

Both agencies have said repeatedly that public safety has not been at risk.

PHAC will not confirm if the March 31 shipment is part of the RCMP investigation.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ebola-henipah-china-1.5232674

What is Henipah? Well...part of it is a highly contagious RSV that can “ In older children and adults, RSV causes mostly upper respiratory symptoms (colds), but it can cause a serious infection in the lungs (bronchiolitis or pneumonia) among infants and adults with serious underlying medical problems.”https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/rsv/

Nipah virus: Human infections range from asymptomatic infection to acute respiratory infection, and fatal encephalitis. Infected people initially develop symptoms including fever, headaches, myalgia, vomiting and sore throat. This can be followed by dizziness, drowsiness, altered consciousness, and neurological signs that indicate acute encephalitis. Some people can also experience atypical pneumonia and severe respiratory problems, including acute respiratory distress. Encephalitis and seizures occur in severe cases, progressing to coma within 24 to 48 hours https://www.who.int/csr/disease/nipah/en/

Hendra virus symptoms in people
Symptoms typically develop between 5 and 21 days after contact with an infectious horse.https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/hendra_virus.aspx

3. Clinical Aspects of Henipavirus Infection
The incubation period ranges from a few days to 2 weeks [19, 23, 24, 49, 50]. Milder symptoms include fever, headache, influenza-like illness, and drowsiness. Severe HeV infection, may present either as a neurological or a pulmonary syndrome, but since there have been very few patients, the clinical features were not well characterized. Neurological signs include confusion, motor deficits and seizures while the pulmonary syndrome presents with an influenza-like illness, hypoxaemia, and diffuse alveolar shadowing in chest X-Rays [23, 24]https://www.hindawi.com/journals/pri/2011/567248/

The cat is very susceptible to henipavirus infection under natural or experimental conditions. Vasculopathy consisting of vasculitis, endothelial syncytia, and viral immunolocalisation in endothelium and vascular smooth muscle was observed in many organs, except perhaps in the brain parenchyma, but meninges were involved (Table 1). There is severe pulmonary inflammation, and bronchial epithelium involvement may be prominent [40, 66, 67, 69].
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/pri/2011/567248/

Henipah viruses—classified as Category A and C bioterrorism agents by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, respectively—pose a threat to national security because of their potential to be easily disseminated, cause high morbidity and mortality rates, and deliver lasting blows to public health. https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/questions-surround-canadian-shipment-of-deadly-viruses-to-china-66254

https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-Henipavirus.aspx Reading


Picking apart what the Canadian Lab is documented to have exported. Based on what they sent and symptoms we know...this looks more and more like some type of henipah variant virus. I included the mention of the “cat” from the research as there was the British teacher in Wuhan that wrote about his experience with the virus and the fact his kitten/cat died.


958 posted on 03/21/2020 9:51:46 AM PDT by EBH (DNC=Party NON GRATA)
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To: cgbg

FOX just announced the White House is doing temp checks on everyone entering the White House - now we need to do the same for all citizens.

Temp checks for everyone entering ANY and ALL businesses, store, plant, school, hospital etc.


959 posted on 03/21/2020 9:52:23 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeZlKu8M7A)
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To: GOPJ

793 news deaths in Italy last 24 hours


960 posted on 03/21/2020 10:15:53 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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