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‘Health care will keep us from going back...’ says Texas couple who retired to Spain on $2k a month
www.marketwatch.com ^ | Published: Oct 17, 2019 1:18 p.m. ET | By Catey Hill

Posted on 10/17/2019 10:51:54 AM PDT by Red Badger

Though they ‘love America,’ this couple has chosen to put their roots down in the coastal town of Denia in Spain.

Call ‘em Texpats.

Kevin and Susan Bryant, 55 and 48, spent most of their lives in Texas, recently in retiree hot spot Austin. But “when Austin became a mini Silicon Valley, we were priced out,” Kevin, a now-retired history teacher and principal, tells MarketWatch.

History buff Kevin says he’d always wanted to live in Europe — “in a castle, specifically, but I let that part go,” he jokes — and began hunting for where the couple might retire on his educator’s pension. They considered more than a dozen countries, finally settling on Spain for a variety of reasons, including its relative affordability, good health care, and that his teacher’s pension could qualify as income to help him get residency there.

To find the right spot, they toured Spain, rejecting Barcelona because it was too big; Tarragona because it was too far north (they wanted somewhere a little warmer); and Peñiscola, because, though they liked it, Susan jokes, “I could never tell my mother I lived in a town with that name.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: 2020election; abortion; aliens; austin; denia; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; infanticide; kevinbryant; mediawingofthednc; medicareforall; obamacare; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; spain; susanbryant; texas
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To: Red Badger

I was in Cordoba discussing this with an ex pat. It seems that $500K “investment”, combination of real estate and back deposit will get you permanent status. Considering that health insurance for 50 year olds, with high deductible in US is so high, that 500K is automatically paying off, plus it buys a place to live, plus Spain is such a beautiful interesting place.


21 posted on 10/17/2019 11:19:54 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: dljordan

So you have no problem paying taxes so Government employees can retire overseas on a Taxpayer paid pension at 48 and 55?

Try taking you social security at 55 and see what you get.


22 posted on 10/17/2019 11:20:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: cicero2k
Well, I've never been to Spain.......... 😉
23 posted on 10/17/2019 11:21:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Red Badger

I have tried the Christian health sharing plan. so far it works...but I don’t trust it for huge payouts like heart attack or coma.


24 posted on 10/17/2019 11:21:31 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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To: Red Badger

Marketwatch did an earlier bio on a Massachusetts schoolteacher who moved to Boquete, Panama and said it would be “insane” to live in the United States.

I’ve also retired to Boquete this year and there’s no way I could live independently in the U.S. on the $1500-$1600/mo income I have here. But I can live decently in Boquete on that cost using the same American currency.

The difference is health care costs, rent and food. I also sold my car in the States and get around on buses, taxis and catching rides. No insurance. No gas. No upkeep. Buses are $1.25 for “pensionados”. Taxi rides are $2-$5 each way. Most meals are $15 or less. Most rentals are all-bills-paid and furnished, including gas, electric, cable and wi-fi.

Obviously, the downside is a country like Spain or Panama could be overrun by socialists at any time. That’s what has happened to other retirement havens like Costa Rica and Ecuador. But, without Trump, the same would be happening in the U.S. and is happening in California.

If you decide not to expect to live “like an American”, you can really enjoy the calmer and happier life and lack of political correctness. Last month, the public schools were treated to a month-long, government-approved period of Bible lessons - try doing that in an American public school.

Do I miss some things from the States? Definitely. But this is an adventure for me and I am not just here for the economics but also to support a church with a heavy outreach presence.


25 posted on 10/17/2019 11:21:37 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Paid For By The Father of Lies. There is no truth in them.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Plus the hiring process for public school teachers is notoriously corrupt.

One district here got more than 3000 resumes for one opening. The job went to a relative of a schoolboard member.

Just another way to reward your relatives and cronies.


26 posted on 10/17/2019 11:21:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: a fool in paradise

IF he was a teacher, I don’t know about TX, but in PA 20 years in and you get full pension and benefits for life. so if you start right out of school, you can be retired by your mid 40s with full pension and health care until you drop dead.


27 posted on 10/17/2019 11:22:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: OrangeHoof

Good for you OH. Good luck


28 posted on 10/17/2019 11:23:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: proxy_user

“Average salary of a doctor in Spain: $45K.”

I’ll bet this guy’s pension is way more that that. And we are supposed to worship public school teachers like they are some kind of selfless saints. In the mean time, private sector pensions no longer exist.


29 posted on 10/17/2019 11:25:10 AM PDT by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: Red Badger
Yes, you can live nicely overseas on 2000 a month.
That is why the Philippines is encouraging retirees to come here...not just retired Filipinos who lived overseas and come back to retire, and not just US military retirees or those with Filipina spouses, but regular retirees...not just from the USA and Europe,but from Japan and other rich Asian nations

Maids and caregivers are cheap, the hospitals are good, and the elderly are respected.

But you know, if you don't have family, it can be quite lonely.

30 posted on 10/17/2019 11:25:19 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Red Badger
Only $130 a month on health care !!

That is something.

My wife and I pay $620/month combined which includes dental. The usual deductibles and out of pocket.

31 posted on 10/17/2019 11:32:00 AM PDT by onona (I'm here to help others)
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To: OrangeHoof

Sounds good, as long as you remain healthy, mobile, and independent.


32 posted on 10/17/2019 11:32:01 AM PDT by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: LadyDoc

“But you know, if you don’t have family, it can be quite lonely.”

Hookers are cheap............


33 posted on 10/17/2019 11:32:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: HamiltonJay

Texas teachers insurance changed several years ago (pretrump) for the worse. It also affected retired teachers. They used to have a platinum level insurance- now they are like the rest of us.


34 posted on 10/17/2019 11:33:25 AM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: Red Badger

The problem with this debate is that our healthcare system is trash, but so is everyone elses. Nobody has compromised to reach an agreement. $5,000 ambulance rides cannot be debated as a pro, but neither can the governmemt running it. Add massive undocumented immigration, and you’re right back to square one.


35 posted on 10/17/2019 11:33:52 AM PDT by George Rand (-- I can't befriend liberals because I won't befriend ignorance --)
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To: MNJohnnie

I’ll be 55 in November. I retired from the military in 2013 after 27 years of service. Then I worked for an engineering company for three years and quit. I consider myself retired and don’t see a problem with it.
One main reason people can’t/don’t/won’t retire sooner is they have fallen into the debt slavery system.


36 posted on 10/17/2019 11:41:51 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: Red Badger

This reminds me of something that I read about what happened to General Motors in that what you nowadays pay for a brand new Chevy or Cadillac, that sizeable chunk of what is on the price tag represents healthcare costs and other goodies for GM retirees that the UAW browbeat that company into paying for.

So with your municipal taxes for schools, likely that good size of them doesn’t buy books or sports equipment or cover maintenance costs for the schools in your area, it instead covers pensions for these ones who want to pack it in and play golf and travel and do whatever else they please that good fifteen or even twenty years before many else of us do.


37 posted on 10/17/2019 11:43:10 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: MNJohnnie

“So you have no problem paying taxes so Government employees can retire overseas on a Taxpayer paid pension at 48 and 55?”

I thought you were talking about the age discrepancy between the retirees. My Dad retired after 30 years at 55.


38 posted on 10/17/2019 11:46:43 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Red Badger

He’ll be in for a bit of a learning curve once he needs expensive treatment.


39 posted on 10/17/2019 11:46:50 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't te Don'tll anyone.)
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To: spokeshave

Saved and noted, thanks.


40 posted on 10/17/2019 11:48:29 AM PDT by avenir
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