Photo Credit: The Hindu
Posted on 09/23/2019 11:39:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Carbon dating suggests that the cultural deposits may be 300 years older than believed...
The results from the fourth excavations suggest that the “second urbanisation [the first being Indus] of Vaigai plains happened in Tamil Nadu around 6th century BCE as it happened in Gangetic plains.” ...
The recent scientific dates obtained for Keeladi findings push back the date of Tamil-Brahmi script to another century, i.e., 6th century BCE...
Six carbon samples collected from the fourth season (2018) of excavations at Keeladi were sent to Beta Analytic Lab, Miami, Florida, U.S., for Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS) dating...
“This finding suggests that the society in Keeladi had used animals predominantly for agricultural purposes,” Mr. Udhayachandran said.
Fifty-six Tamil-Brahmi inscribed potsherds were recovered from the site of excavation conducted by the TNAD alone, the report stated.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehindu.com ...
Photo Credit: The Hindu
This puts more credence to the belief that the Sumerian, Elamite, Harappan and Tamil/Dravida regions were all populated by the same people speaking an agglutinative language all spread along the littoral from Tamil nadu, along the south coast of India to the Persian Gulf
The agglutinative languages (common throughout Asia) have in common an approach to communication, but they are difficult to relate to one another. What little is known of Elamite comes from bilingual texts, and betrays agglutinative structure, but the two most ancient native written forms remain unreadable. Elamite, like Sumerian, is considered a language isolate, and unrelated to each other.
Even if such languages share a common origin, it's not unlikely that they are inherently more changeable even than other well-attested non-agglutinative (Indo-European, the most widely spoken language family) languages, making their common origin(s) difficult to discern, even by native speakers (or especially by native speakers).
Harappan is only known from the body of texts, and none of the proposed "translations" have been generally accepted (reminds me of the huge numbers of "solutions" to the DB Cooper case). In an extreme case, a few years back, one research team claimed that their computer analysis showed that Harappan wasn't a written language at all.
The fact that Dravidian has survived and classical-era inscriptions are known (including in some Roman Empire sites on the Red Sea) and yet it hasn't emerged from the Harappan texts suggests (obviously doesn't prove) that they are unrelated. Lack of horse imagery in the Harappan remnants probably means the language (or languages?) of the Harappans was not Indoeuropean, either.
Yes, I know I don’t have any basis in fact for that guess, but it just sounds so perfect a theory - “oh people spread across the littoral”.
It would be nice to have more written records (such as a Harappan script decipherment that everyone could live with) but it seems likely that there was one 'coat of paint' after another throughout lower and Central Asia, just as there has been everywhere else on Earth (apart from Antarctica, unless you're Rand Flem-Ath ;^).
Isn’t 600 Bc kind of modern in timeline for the extensive inter-cultural trade network that already existed in these areas? Would not this kind of diversity be expected for this timeline?
There's a difference between evidence and expectation.
“Biblical” would be an example of that fact. Not knocking the quest at all, but come on... get real. And I say this as bona fide clergy. It doesn’t help the effort when non evidence is constantly trying to be passed off as real evidence all the time. It discredits the true evidence that just might make a connection.
Off-topic but up your alley.
https://godfatherpolitics.com/another-kingdom-mentioned-in-the-bible-is-verified-by-archeologists/
New registees can’t use freepmail.
I lost my old username because I lost my email account and now can’t log-in with the old name because it has been so long since I needed the pw.
Getting old is better than not, but has it’s drawbacks. :/
Interesting, didn't know that about the FReepmail. From this poor old CPU, I can't load your link, but will check it later. Probably Edom?.
That was incomprehensible.
It was honest and factual...
Maybe, but what were you trying to say?.
Scenario one... A whole skull is found at a very dateable stratified layer according to all peer Geologists and archaeologists. Immediately deemed as inadmissible heresy because it would be on a timeline older than the Bible allows.
Scenario two... one small chunk of charcoal is found on a level, in a (possible) location that might (maybe)correspond with the bible if you can manipulate the scripture to fit it in, completely proving all of the bible as gospel truth and the existence of Jesus Christ our lord...
As a minister I am embarrassed by this concept and deception. If it can be proved then do it honestly, if not then quit injecting the straw argument. If We are to win the perspective, let’s at least win honestly.
Get it now? :)
Despite what I believe or not believe, I am not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and refuse to even consider proven fact.
“possible” fact.
And it works both ways from both sides...
True objectivity is a great virtue.
That didn't clear it up. The Old Testament doesn't mention India until the Book of Esther, which is somewhat younger than these Keezhadi finds.
No one was there before the old testament? Why not? How come? proven how? Prove no one lived there before this time.
Territory borders in the Americas were defined by dialect and the ability to understand the deep southern drawl or not.
But they had a universal physical sign language that was understood by all tribes and clans everywhere.
Not being written and recorded as word means not a thing...
We need your old screen name please.
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No one was there before the old testament?
WTH are you talking about? Not one thing you've said has had any bearing on this topic, and NOWHERE have I said there was no one there (by "there" I guess you mean India?) before the OT.
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