Posted on 08/02/2019 5:19:54 AM PDT by PROCON
The United States Secret Service is moving forward with plans to outfit its agents with Glock 9 millimeter (mm) pistols to replace the agency's existing Sig Sauer .357-caliber duty weapons -- part of a larger move among U.S. law enforcement agencies towards the lighter, more efficient guns.
The Secret Service has been one of the few agencies that has maintained Sig Sauer as a permanent duty weapon for more than 20 years, said Donald J. Mihalek, a retired senior Secret Service agent and ABC News contributor.
The Secret Service and Glock declined to comment on the move, but a federal official with direct knowledge of the deal confirmed the agency's plan to switch to the Glock 9 mm pistols. Details of the new deal were recently posted on fedbizops.gov, the federal government's website for posting procurement opportunities above $25,000 for private sector companies.
The Secret Service -- whose primary mission is to protect presidents, vice-presidents and their families -- employs about 3,200 special agents, 1,300 uniformed officers and more than 2,000 other support personnel, according to its website.
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What model do you find small enough to carry, Bro Dawg?
We uare talking about the .357 Sig here not the magnum.
FN’s are wonderful.
I like that FN 5.7, although at 1400 bucks, it’s a bit pricey for me.
My guess the lady agents delicate wrists can't handle it so now they are stepping down to 9mm.
This isn’t .357 Magnum, it’s 357SIG. It’s basically a .40SW round necked down to 9mm and powered up to approximate .357 Magnum velocities. However, the case neck is very short and bullet setback is/was very common. I blew up two SIGs because of this. Now they have a Lee factory crimp die that helps solve much of that, but I think it’s still a flawed cartridge.
In my post #21 I meant what model Glock?
Wait until they have the inevitable Glock accidental discharge in the vicinity of the President.
Different .357. The SS has used the .357 Sig, which is an autoloading round based on the .40 S&W case necked down to .357.
It's a SECRET Service...
There are a lot of times when a 9 mm is the right weapon, and I love my Glocks. However, for the Secret Service, I want something with a one-shot stop, even against a motivated opponent. The .357 or .45 is a much better choice for that mission than a 9 mm. And, no, I don’t trust every Secret Service agent to be a perfect shot. The ones I shoot with are so close to perfect that it doesn’t matter, but they are the ones who get a lot of range time. I worry about the ones who go to the range to train up when they have to qualify.
I used to greatly enjoy the G-19 while I had it.
Every time I think about getting a decent pistol I always migrate to .45, the “man stopper”. But Frankly, 9mm ammo is so relatively cheap and plentiful that I’m thinking that, unless you are a “gun enthusiast”, 9mm is simply a no brainer. And getting 18 shots to a magazine is hard to beat.
Yeah you’re probably right.
One of the great blunders in history is the 4,000 different caliber rounds. And people complain about women and their shoes.
.22, .30-.30 .38/.357 .45 and .30-06 is about all anyone needs.
Hey Whitey!!! Woof! Good to hear from you, buddy!
I use the G19 for the last ten years now. Found it to be the “just right” size for SoB, hip, or shoulder rig. Plus it’s a good fit to the hand. Plus, when I’m teaching, I’ve found that it SEEMS to be the easiest to handle for most people.
I have a G17 also, AND a G21 in .45ACP (American Commie Popper). They’re larger and bulkier.
.357, .358, whatever it takes.
I don't understand people who buy expensive guns for their looks, and then stick them in a safe and never carry them.
Kick and trigger pull issues can be addressed with range time, can’t they?
The most advanced handgun in the world is no use in the hands of someone who lacks the training to hit what he/she aims at.
My thoughts exactly. They are doing this to fit “smaller” hands.
Is there a difference in cost per round? I mention this because, fact is, when the government is supplying its people with a lot of something, cost of use matters. I remember those early 60’s dodges and Plymouth marketed for city and town police work that had two speed automatic transmissions. They were “good enough”.
I suppose the idea is that 9mm is “good enough” and the cartridges are cheap. And if someone is not a marksman, five bullets are better than one really well placed one - when you may be hard pressed to really well place ANY of them.
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