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Well, the problem seems to be with the plant substitutes used for grain, but a very small number of animals are seeing this problem.

What caught my eye was the incredible stupidity shown by the doctor who is president of the “American Veterinary Medical Association.”

He seems to think that when wolves eat an animal that can eat grains, the wolf is actually eating grains. In essence, we have a VIP doctor who thinks carnivores are herbivores.

What a friggin’ idiot.

1 posted on 06/30/2019 6:59:58 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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“”” the brands are Acana, Zignature, Taste of the Wild, 4health, Earthborn Holistic, Blue Buffalo, Nature’s Domain, Fromm, Merrick, California Natural, Natural Balance, Orijen, Nature’s Variety, NutriSource, Nutro and Rachael Ray Nutrish “””

Never heard of or seen any of these brands but it must suck to be Rachel Rae/Ray right now


2 posted on 06/30/2019 7:05:23 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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Given that same logic. Cows eat vegetation so if I eat a steak I am actually a vegetarian. Yes, I have used that line many times as a joke, now I have a doctor to back me up.


3 posted on 06/30/2019 7:05:33 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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You can keep your existing dog food if you want to.


4 posted on 06/30/2019 7:06:36 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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In what way are these meat based dog foods made up of meats that come from animals that somehow escaped being fed GRAIN???? That is one of the stupidest conclusions I have ever encountered? Are they only made of carnivore meat who only eat carnivores who also only eat carnivores, thus diluting the grain in the diet to the point of negligibility??? ABSURD conclusion.


5 posted on 06/30/2019 7:06:55 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 06/30/2019 7:07:00 AM PDT by PGalt
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DINOVITE

Dot com....


7 posted on 06/30/2019 7:08:51 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.h)
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I love vegetarians. Pretty much all I eat are vegetarians, except for the occasional mountain lion steak. Ted Nugent

So, if only eating meat causes heart disease in dogs, how is it that wolves and coyotes don’t die of heart disease?


9 posted on 06/30/2019 7:09:46 AM PDT by cyclotic
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Correlation is NOT causation. I suspect the REAL cause of the correlation is that dogs fed with these foods live longer lives than dogs fed on lesser quality dog foods made with cheaper ingredients. By living longer, some dogs with a genetic propensity to this disease live long enough to develop it, where other dogs die too early to show the symptoms.

SHEEESH!

I wonder which dog food industry organization funded this study.

10 posted on 06/30/2019 7:10:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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ol Roy is not on the list.
Dry dog food is unnatural and it dehydrates. Pet food is a scam.

My cat caught a rabbit. My dog ate it, ears, tail, everything, even cleaned the floor afterwards.
I went into a panic. My dog just ate rabbit-by-products! She’s doomed.


13 posted on 06/30/2019 7:13:16 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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A lot of brands are mentioned. I wonder how big a hit they’re going to take from this?

My pup eats Taste of the Wild.


16 posted on 06/30/2019 7:16:38 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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If you read the study it is not the meat that is the problem. It is the high amount of legumes they use in the food to replace the grain that they used to use to get the protein content up (mostly chick peas and lentils). Apparently some dogs have issues with legumes.

I still agree that it is a small number of dogs and is being overblown in the article. But you knaow the news exists to scare people any more so...

I feed my older dogs the 4health brand from Tractor Supply. I don’t intend to change. They did much worse on a corn based food. Skin issues and odor.


17 posted on 06/30/2019 7:17:51 AM PDT by The Toddler (Pitching a fit in the checkout line)
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...He seems to think that when wolves eat an animal that can eat grains, the wolf is actually eating grains. In essence, we have a VIP doctor who thinks carnivores are herbivores.

What a friggin’ idiot.

He is not an idiot, he is right.

The wolves eat the whole animal, intestinal content and all.

18 posted on 06/30/2019 7:24:05 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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Senior citizens starving under President Trump’s economic depression hardest hit.


19 posted on 06/30/2019 7:27:24 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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I hope he was just mis-quoted. If not he is not very smart and surely mortified by now.

I am happy to know that I am primarily all vegan now and will eat my steak as guilt free as ever.


23 posted on 06/30/2019 7:29:49 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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Our little maltese mix has only eaten Blue Buffalo (lamb and brown rice)since he was 6 moths old and off puppy chow. He turned 15 in April. Up until last year people thought he was a puppy and has never been ill. He has a little arthritis now and deafness and slight cataracts but otherwise OK. We always bought the lamb and when we get Blue Buffalo canned it is always beef or lamb. Always avoided any chicken in his diet.


29 posted on 06/30/2019 7:42:02 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future)
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Why is the FDA spending money evaluating DOG food?


30 posted on 06/30/2019 7:43:06 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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My spaniel/retriever mix eats Taste of the Wild and has developed heart problems (he is old, and had bad heartworm before we adopted him). My vet mentioned to me about a month or so ago that grain free was leading to a lot of heart problems. Sigh.


40 posted on 06/30/2019 8:21:00 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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Not exactly idiocy, just imprecise wording. Wolves don’t eat grains directly or even indirectly. They eat pre-digested vegetable matter.

When they take down a kill, the first thing they go for is the gut, not the tenderloin. And what exactly is in the gut of a deer? If they want to call that grains for laypeople so be it.

Dogs/wolves will also sometimes eat their own crap and they can actually get nutritional value out of seconds.


43 posted on 06/30/2019 8:32:14 AM PDT by fruser1
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Some food for thought....

Got Cats and Dogs? Do This in a Pinch, But Don't Make a Habit of It

On obligate vs scavenging carnivores.

Someone needs to follow the money with regard to the FDA's so-called study, and why these 2 rags are shilling for it.

44 posted on 06/30/2019 8:35:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds,)
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“Those animals they prey on are typically herbivores, so they are ingesting grains anyway.”

what a total bullshit statement ...


46 posted on 06/30/2019 8:37:08 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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