Posted on 06/23/2019 5:57:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Following the revelations that a series of bizarre encounters between Navy pilots and UFOs had occurred off the east coast of the United States from 2014 to early 2015, The War Zone set out in search of any possible explanation for at least some of these incidents that don't involve fantastic origins or extremely advanced technology. Over the last month, we have identified one possibility, in particular, that is worth mentioning. Instead of anti-gravitational propulsion or flying machines from space, this possibilityand that is all it is, a possibilityhas to do with specially designed radar reflector balloons and submarines, as well as a historical precedent for an obscure operational electronic intelligence gathering concept that first came to be during one of the hottest moments of the Cold War.
The description given of objects involved in numerous close UFO encounters with Navy pilots off America's eastern seaboard during the 2014-2015 timeframe is akin to a 'beachball' or orb with a cube suspended inside of it with the cube's corners touching or nearly touching its edges. This sounds amazingly bizarre and is more reminiscent of what we would expect from a sci-fi movie circa the 1980s than the classic flying saucer or even the large 'Tic Tac' that Navy pilots encountered back in 2004, but to me, it also sounded eerily familiar.
When I thought of round orbs with cubes inside them, balloons and radar reflector devices came immediately to mind. I began hashing out this possibility with my colleague Joseph Trevithick shortly after the reports came to light. The reality is that traditional high-altitude balloons and radar reflectors already go hand-in-hand.
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I wrote months ago that the Nimitz things appeared to be taking part in the Exercise. No Space Brothers.
They travel underwater at 70 mph too.
700 mph if they want. The navy is in charge of UFO’s because the ET’s have most bases underwater in the deepest of the oceans since it doesn’t bother them. Except for Antartica and a few other spots on earth ET bases are under water.
Most “UFO’s” seen today are ours, back engineered from
Roswell and other crashes.
28,000 mph going from 28,000 feet to near ground in a partial second.Yeah i’d say that’s quick. But, not as quick as the speed of thought,faster than speed of light.
?Source Please?
Do we have radar that can identify ‘mass’... That would be the key.
There has been this BIG TO DO (Navy radar footage, pilots on the record, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intel, a History Channel series, Committee briefings, a Presidential briefing)...and now a mouthpiece for the DOD is saying "never mind."
Weather balloon. Swamp gas.
This is a head fake or something similar.
Looks like someone in charge has either lost his nerve about coming clean OR someone else is butting in and trying to change the program while it is underway.
Note to those of us who have been following this story: "Enjoy the show...it's about to get even better.";-)
Yeah, that point is covered, but very obscurely and with quite a stretch to make that fact a plausible aspect of the submarine attack kit.
But Tyler says to get to the bottom of all of this UFO stuff, all the angles have to be covered and explored in detail. So that’s one detail which is not too convincing.
This website is a defense blog which means it is a mouthpiece for those in the military and possibly some departments/branches of the DOD.
dint know balloons could move fast as a Bug...
Still outside the range of ATC radar. The point is that radar sets do not track objects outside the performance envelope they are designed for. Fighter aircrafts airborne radar is highly optimized to target other warplanes, UFOs would require IF bandwidths and tracking filter process noise that would degrade performance against targets of interest.
OK, you must know more about the new AN/APG-65 radar than the pilots that use them - and more than the SPY-2 radar people on AEGIS ships - as they would have the same problems you ascribe to fighter radar, yet somehow they can track them also - a conundrum.
Or your comment was not clear to me
AN/APG-73 correction - the version which replaced the 80s AN/APG-65
Have you watched this?
https://youtu.be/PRgoisHRmUE
I dont think weather balloons act like what they apparently have evidence of.
I would think that the pilots would know more about what they
Saw than any one,back in 1945 they even gave Chase and
had no chance, that does not sound like a balloon to me.
Not sure I get your meaning there. Could you elaborate (i.e., "the rest"?).
Actually, No. The stuff needed for life to develop is so specialized that it is amazing that there is life at all.
Of they 2000 or so stars that we can see on an average night, the furthest away is 6000 ly away (P Cygni). Almost all the rest are within 1000 ly of our solar system. Most of those are within 200 ly of us. Going by how life on Earth came about, almost all of those are either too young to have developed anything other than single cell life (assuming they have planets), or, already dying and are past the point where they could have. By the theory and observations of life on Earth, it too 3 Billion Years for multi-cell life to form on Earth. Following that (its all we have to go on), with most stars we can see dying by 1 billion, its hard to get advanced civilizations on those stars.
Then you have to have the right elements and chemicals in an abundance supply to have the right conditions for life. Iron for a magnetic field to protect the atmosphere from the solar wind and to protect the life from interstellar radiation. Carbon, Oxygen, and all the rest have to be in an abundant, but, not too abundant amount. The system has to be in a relatively calm part of the galaxy too. We know that at least one of the great die offs of life was caused by the solar system being too close to a Supernova.
So, we are stuck with long lived stars, got to be a second or third generation star (we are all but star stuff as Carl the Pot Head said). Red dwarf stars are too unstable (they tend to flare and release massive amounts of radiation), so, we aren’t left with a whole lot of star systems that meet the needs of advanced civilizations.
But, saying there is life out there, the chances of them actually finding a way around the laws of physics is a whole other branch of science. I am more familiar with the Astronomy.
BUT, say this is all worked around and there is another space faring bunch out there, why would they come to Earth and walk up and down in front of some poor sap who no one is going to believe and make “beep beep” noises in front of him. I feel they would be more discrete.
A whole lot of whistling past the graveyard if you ask me.
I worked as a radar engineer at Raytheon for 35 years. I probably know more about radar phenomenology and principles than almost any pilot, and more than most radar engineers. Sorry but extraordinary claims, observations of extraterrestrial spacecraft, for instance, require extraordinary evidence.
Anomalous propagation, electronic glitches, operator confusion, teething problems with new systems are infinitely more plausible than UFOs.
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