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The universe may be a billion years younger than we thought. Scientists are scrambling...
NBC ^ | May 18, 2019, | Corey S. Powell

Posted on 05/19/2019 7:11:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin

By 2013, the European Planck space telescope's detailed measurements of cosmic radiation seemed to have yielded the final answer: 13.8 billion years old. All that was left to do was to verify that number using independent observations of bright stars in other galaxies.

Then came an unexpected turn of events.

A few teams, including one led by Nobel laureate Adam Riess of the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, set out to make those observations. Instead of confirming Planck's measurements, they started getting a distinctly different result.

At first, the common assumption was that Riess and the other galaxy-watchers had made a mistake. But as their observations continued to come in, the results didn't budge. Reanalysis of the Planck data didn't show any problems, either.

If all the numbers are correct, then the problem must run deeper. It must lie in our interpretation of those numbers — that is, in our fundamental models of how the universe works.

The latest galaxy studies indicate an expansion rate about 9 percent faster than the answer from Planck. That might not sound like much of a disagreement, but over cosmic history it adds up to that full billion years of lost time.

The "tension" reminds scientists of just how much they still don't understand about the underlying laws of nature. Dunkley points to the ghostly particles known as neutrinos, which are extremely abundant throughout space. "We measure neutrinos in the lab and put them in our cosmological model assuming that they are behaving just as we expect them to, but we simply don't know if that's true," she says. "I wouldn't find it surprising if dark matter turned out to be more complicated than we think, too."

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: adamriess; astronomy; billion; darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; jodunkley; neutrinos; science; speedofdark; stringtheory; universe; wendyfreedman
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To: BenLurkin

“It says here the universe will collapse in billion years.”
“Bloody hell! We’ve got to get out of here!”
“What are you talking about? A billion years is a long time.”
“A billion? Oh, whew. I thought you said a MILLION.”


61 posted on 05/19/2019 9:50:54 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Iscool
If it’s all expanding, why is nothing getting closer to earth???

The closest galaxy to the milky way galaxy is predicted to collide with the milky way in the next four and 1/2 billion years or so. These two galaxies are obviously moving TOWARDS EACH OTHER!

YOUTUBE Andromeda Milky Way Collision

FAR away galaxy's relative movement to the Earth can only be measured by using the doppler shift of light because they are so far away. Because the light is shifted toward the red end of the spectrum, that means to these geniuses that it must be caused by object ALL moving away from the Earth in all directions. There is a much simpler explanation for the red shift that is ignored.

Except for things relatively closer to us that DO NOT show the red shift. The really smart people think they can explain it all but they have so many holes in their arguments that they need dark energy that we can't detect, dark matter that we can't detect..... to be able to fudge everything to make it "work."

If you could read a book 500 years into the future, you'd probably read that science had shown today's geniuses are just as wrong as the Catholic Church was wrong about Earth being the center of the universe.

62 posted on 05/19/2019 9:52:22 AM PDT by politicianslie (OPTIMIST-Glass 1/2 full- PESSIMIST 1/2 empty TO ENGINEER, Glass is twice as big as it needs to be!)
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To: BenLurkin
In heaven my old friend Allan Sandage, who "determined the first reasonably accurate values for...the age of the universe," is very amused.
63 posted on 05/19/2019 10:33:27 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Drew68
There is no “settled science” when it comes to cosmology.

I like reading about science where scientists work to confirm other people's theories. At least some scientists remember the scientific method. Its a lot better than getting your friends to review your paper, publishing your theory, and then getting the government to suppress alternate theories. Replication, what's that?

64 posted on 05/19/2019 11:24:09 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It was merely a galaxy pulling a goatse

Don’t look up the term if you don’t already know, and especially don’t go to the russian mirror site. You have been warned.


65 posted on 05/19/2019 11:39:05 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
😂
66 posted on 05/19/2019 12:00:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Reily

If it’s got “spacetime” in it, it’s not worth taking seriously.


67 posted on 05/19/2019 12:15:55 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.

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68 posted on 05/19/2019 2:47:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ivory49

#12 Nope this is how it all started in our universe : )

The Last Question by Isaac Asimov
https://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

Man said, “AC, is this the end? Can this chaos not be reversed into the Universe once more? Can that not be done?”

AC said, “THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.”

Man’s last mind fused and only AC existed — and that in hyperspace.

Matter and energy had ended and with it, space and time. Even AC existed only for the sake of the one last question that it had never answered from the time a half-drunken computer ten trillion years before had asked the question of a computer that was to AC far less than was a man to Man.

All other questions had been answered, and until this last question was answered also, AC might not release his consciousness.

All collected data had come to a final end. Nothing was left to be collected.

But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships.

A timeless interval was spent in doing that.

And it came to pass that AC learned how to reverse the direction of entropy.

But there was now no man to whom AC might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer — by demonstration — would take care of that, too.

For another timeless interval, AC thought how best to do this. Carefully, AC organized the program.

The consciousness of AC encompassed all of what had once been a Universe and brooded over what was now Chaos. Step by step, it must be done.

And AC said, “LET THERE BE LIGHT!”

And there was light——


69 posted on 05/19/2019 3:52:31 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Moonman62

Thanks - maybe that’s why I get light headed from time to time...thought it was just old age happening..


70 posted on 05/20/2019 3:13:01 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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