You sound perturbed.
Are you perturbed?
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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
No baster you nor anyone. You spent most of your time quibbling about minor trifling details and pushing more Qult nonsense. That’s like the Qult MO.
Why aren’t you spending your time with one of your leaders Brian Cates?
You sure know how to pick’em. Squirt! Squirt!
You sound perturbed.
Are you perturbed?
How far away from the "launch" site was it?
Where exactly was the "launch" site anyway...was it visible from the nearby NAS?
Any luck identifying the class of missile you're claiming in the image?
Tell me something I don't know princess.
Thank you. From your link: “So there you have it, sadly this wasn’t anything more exciting than a helicopter flying in a straight line in the wee hours of a quiet Sunday morning on the picturesque Puget Sound. Above all else, this photo serves as another reminder that sometimes there is much more to an image than what immediately meets the eye.”
Seems that “missile” picture mystery has been solved.
Thanks again.
I am completely lost
Old movies do that
That issue's been settled, mickety, hasn't it? Haven't we agreed that the photograph was of a dolphin class twin engine helicopter shooting straight up into the sky from over the ocean?
Which was witnessed by nobody except a weather camera, but the nearby military base issued a statement on?
Your excellent sleuthing has solved the case.
Nothing to see here. Go about your business, citizen.
The Qult
"You cannot tell somebody something seventy-four times in a row when they pretend they didn't hear you."
The Derps
Because an independent researcher called the NAS and asked them.
The civilian FAA was also called and the same thing...nothing.
However the helicopter lift off time and location WAS confirmed by both the Air Rescue company and flight tracking software.
The entire mystery missile launch was resolved in 24 hours...until internet jokers like you came along.
And I’m not going to, either, since they are not about
“The QAnon Hoax”.
They’re about some small players, at best.
Even IF you could somehow “Prove” one of them was the
“Real Q”. It wouldn’t, and doesn’t, matter.
They, and Q, are not your target.
We are. We normal folks.
Because we are legion.
And you still won’t dare respond to my #562
I don’t think you are on the General’s side.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3741004/posts?page=562#562
~Easy.
Yeah two days later when the article was “updated”
Of course not before the airbase and the FAA
Said nothing there
“With this information in hand, we reached out the Naval Air Station Whidbey Island to see if there were any aircraft operations around the time of the photo. Not surprisingly, there weren’t. The public affairs officer went to air operations directly to confirm this for us. We then reached out to Seattle Center’s public relations representative and they checked into it and said the FAA had no idea what it was and had no anomalies on radar or strange reports that morning that would explain the image.”
The motive and character of the author of your fake "piece" is a minor, trifling detail?
I happen to think it's a hugely important detail. It would explain why a so-called MAGA man is attacking a confirmed MAGA operation, whether you believe it's authorized by Trump or not.
It's just not something a MAGA man would do. So, I ask myself, why? I explained to you in great detail why but you didn't acknowledge or respond to any of it, other than to explain that Gorka is a great personal friend and advisor to the President, despite the fact that the President fired his ass straight outta the White House.
So yea, what you call minor and trifling details are what I call important. The why is always important. Don't you think so? One of Gorka's main "whys" is money. Another may be disgruntledness and pissed offedness. After all, the Q team most likely are the ones responsible for his ouster.
He may know that, and he may not, depending on if he was read into THE PLAN. But like I explained further, the people running the op would hesitate to trust somebody with his character with opsec on something like this. I wouldn't.
That would be like trusting Omarosa. Right?
You just don't seem to have a grasp on how things work in a workplace like the White House or how government employees at the top level operate. Or the swamp, or the derp state, or really anything relevant to the discussion.
Yet you don't seem to be retarted like certain helicopter boys. More like you got an agenda and you're sticking to it through thick and thin. Which is why I believe you're a professional.
I could be wrong about you, but I'm getting pretty good from separating the operatives from the just plain ignorant, prideful, and arrogant deniers.
Pretty sure I got your number, though.
Good evening.
I'll take a shot;
1.) Water is wet.
2.) Fish gotta swim.
3.) Birds gotta fly.
4.) Missiles are not helicopters
That's just for starters. Remedial class starts after the bell.
Are you blind?
Now which one is the "helicopter"?
The discussion should be where did the missile come from? Why was it launched? What was the intended target? But we can even have those important discussions cause we got a bunch or dopes that can't even find the intellectual honesty to even it admit it isn't a helicopter...
Interesting theory.
So why did independent researchers and FAA people investigate if nobody saw anything? Your two theories don't jibe.
Reconcile.
Have you ever noticed that George Takei greets everyone with Hey friend, just like Landru? LOL
Exaaaactly.
Step one. Admit the obvious.
All other steps follow.
But this is how derps do. They argue about the inarguable and try to bog you down in their derpiness and supposed stupidity. It's a trick, really.
Still, it's fun making fun of them.
I did not notice that, even though I have listened to him often on the Howard Stern show. I'll watch for that next time.
That's one creepy dude, you ask me.
No, I’m happy The Matrix ripoff is going down the crapper.
Word on the street is preying insect is flipping out. He’s going to crack if the Feds don’t pick him up first.
No, you’re not very good bags. You’re very long-winded, you avoid answering any question and you believe that bluster is evidence.
It’s not.
You didn’t convert a single Scientology member to the Qult.
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