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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, We are Q. For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
Q is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as breadcrumbs. One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the Deep State of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnons Pernicious Connections to Pizzagate
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podestas (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminalsincluding child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the Pizzagate and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the Pizzagate conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 Next week [Next week] was declared suicide weekend. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 Q declares March Madness and that the public will soon know. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 April was supposed to be a BIG month, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, military start, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the Pizzagate fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House prove that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
Hey didn’t Q before being deactivated because of the in-fighting who gets to write as Q among the grifters say Rod Rosenstein was out from the DOJ?
Did maybe your imaginary friend Q not hear what President Trump said about it in the Oval Office?
Rod is on the job at the DOJ what, a month later going to work every day!
Hey, that’s only the 10,0001 thing wrong stated by the #QAnon grifters.
“Disinformation is necessary.” Keep paying our “decoders.”
Just fleecing the Baby Boomers alive. Sad.
I see people make fun of the messages over and over again and that's fine. You have to understand why that is and why it's most likely tied to our President Trump and his team.
The derps know who and what the Q movement is all about. That's why all their media assets attack it relentlessly, just like maga coalition is doing. The Q team and their Socratic messages is all about getting real information out there to the Patriots thus bypassing the derp state's corrupt media. It's worked like a charm with millions and millions of people being red-pilled and joining in all around the world. Those who have been following understand what is going to happen far before anyone else does. We understood many pieces were being put in place.
Now, we understand the derps CANNOT stop what's coming. The Mueller Report was just one of the main blockades and now it's been torn down and other pieces, AG Barr, is now being activated. It's exciting to see what he is saying now and watching the panic from the derps and all their assets. This thread alone shows the panic. Much of this has been hinted by in the Socratic messages all along.
It's the one thing the derps fear and that is people waking up here and around the world to just how corrupt the elites have been. The Socratic method has been genius in its implementation. Here is WHY they had to do it this way and WHY it's a small Q-proof this is tied to our President and his team. That is because if they had just put out this info straight up, the derp-state could eventually go after President Trump and his team for national security leaks. It HAD to be done this way to get good info out to We the People and it's been great to be a part of. Like another FReeper said, it's free to read and participate in the Q thread right here on FR if you so choose. Thanks for you time.
WWG1WGA
CGato
The folks who follow Jack Posobiec on twitter knew last week that Assange was going to make news, just like they knew Barr was looking into the Trump/Russia investigation well before Barr himself announced it publicly.
If you want to get ahead of the news curve, forget the secret squirrel stuff and read Posobiec!
Lol
Every time you type something you just further demonstrate your complete ignorance and dishonesty
So use that massive Brain of yours and see if you can deduce why sessions being investigated about Russia would relate to his recussal and what that would mean for future events?
Or just make up another lie and call every one a name
Whichever, your complete lack of comprehension is thoroughly entertaining
McCabe even investigated his department boss then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions after Senate Democrats asked McCabe to look into allegations Sessions perjured himself during his confirmation
Now peabrain
Tell us why rod Rosenstein
The guy that signed the fourth FISA warrant. The guy that wrote the letter recommending firing Comey. The guy that wrote the letter naming Mueller special consul, the guy that worth the letter expanding the scope of the mueller probe
Explain why it benefits Trump politically to have that same guy stick around and co-sign the Barr letter that says there was no collusion and no obstruction?
Can you figure it out?
Need me to connect the dots for you genius?
You’ve obviously never heard the expression “better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”
Lol too funny
How about blackmail by Trump?
I hope your paycheck reflects.
And yet he's fired.
Make that make sense.
#YoureStupit
He is spreading a ton of lies about what the Q movement is all about.
“The Q movement hurts MAGA and President Trump.” That’s one big lie because the Q movement has only strengthened President Trump’s digital army around the world and Patriots are getting good info bypassing the derp state’s media assets.
“Trust Sessions” Another big lie because now we understand AG Sessions had a role to fill and did it quite well helping to keep the deep state guessing.
You’ve pointed out many more of his lies on this thread, with his source being maga coalition. It’s been established maga coalition is on the same attack-Q page as the derp state media. What we are continuing to witness from them is panic. Whether it is knowingly or unknowingly, only he knows.
CGato
He is soooo stupit
And someone esle needs to update there stoopit score card LOL
An Obama staffer indicted cause of the Mueller probe?
Wow thats strange
Hahahaha
Watching them spin this is going to be fun...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-obama-white-house-counsel-greg-craig-indicted/
Former Obama administration White House counsel Greg Craig has been indicted by the Department of Justice with making false statements and concealing material information about his activities on behalf of Ukraine. Lawyers for Craig expected their client to be charged in a foreign lobbying investigation spun off from special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe
Your personal attacks are unwarranted. My comment about Seb Gorka’s relationship with President Trump is true and that’s a fact.
POTUS/PJTJr./GORKA/SPICER vs. #QAnon Grifters
I’m comfy with MAGA.
Hahahahahaha
The troll that four four pages and called everyone names for four pages is now offended
Hahaha
what a precious little snowflake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ
I'm a pretty strong middle-aged man and I still get teary-eyed when I watch this video from way back when Donald Trump was running for President. I was red-pilled by President Reagan while in high school. I knew our system of government and our culture was totally corrupt back then. When you listen to what Donald Trump says in this video, he lays it all out on the line what we're really facing. Finally a candidate come along who understands along with a movement with a chance to take back our country.
You listen to it now in its context, with how everything is playing out today, and it helps to understand Mr. Trump knew back then he was getting in to something much bigger than himself. Now, much of it makes more sense of giving our government back to "We the People". With so much corruption around him it makes sense to have an informative channel that bypasses all the corruption and goes directly to "We the People". In this context, the whole Q movement now makes sense.
We're still surrounded by a lot of corruption and they are in a panic because they are losing control (see this thread). It's a thing of beauty to watch and see how it's all playing out. From that early video, President Trump means what he says and is the leader of a movement far bigger than him because the corruption is massive. There had to be a plan in place to take down this massive corruption and there is. Whether one chooses to follow the Q movement or not, please understand it's just part of a great plan to take back our country, just like candidate Trump promised.
Promises Made, Promises Kept, rings more true than many realize.
Peace!
CGato
What an utterly disgraceful post, trashing a Trump ally and patriot Seb Gorka like that.
Really disgraceful.
..maybe Seb is a psyop—anyway what he is saying about Q will be proven false soon IMHO...
I disagree. They were completely warranted.
And also true.
#TruthDenier
And yet he's fired from the White House.
p.s. So is Spicer, in case you haven't heard.
#StupitIsAsStupitDoes
I have that video bookmarked and post it often to Facebook. I don’t spend as much time here as I do elsewhere because other sites is where I can reach people who need educating. Those who reside here who aren’t moved by that video are unreachable, imo. Excellent post all around!
WWG1WGA
and for you “unreachables”
TRUST SESSIONS! :p
No, that can't be true, BiggBob. Nothing's happening, nothing's ever happened, and nothing is EVER going to happen.
There is no plan. Q is not real. Trump will be indicted by Mueller and impeached. Sessions is a Keebler elf. Sebastian Gorka is a great personal friend and trusted advisor of Donald Trump and his firing was a trick.
I read that right here on FR. I swear I did.
You still can’t answer a question.
You have no credibility here and you have no ability to know anything that is done in President Trump’s White House no matter what con job you buy from the QAnon scammers.
Hey, where’s the million indictments and people shipped to GITMO? Isn’t it time to trash the US Constitution for martial law. The Q grifters said so. LMAO!
Have a nice day!
“Q doesn’t make “predictions” so much as outline a “plan” and reveal portions of it.”
Of course, early on, he did make predictions, and they all turned out to be completely wrong, and then he later claimed that was just “misdirection” and stopped making such concrete predictions, so as not to embarrass himself like that again.
Somehow, the sheep that follow him swallowed that nonsensical excuse instead of running for the hills.
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