Jack has "bad" friends...who knew?
Lolz...
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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
I get at least fifty solicitations a month in the mail from a host of conservative groups asking for money. The RNC is the worst! Give them a couple of thousand dollars twenty years ago and they never stop bugging you.
Your so called "QAnon grifters" do not concern me in the least. The Motley Fool even asks for money in exchange for a "FREE copy" of their stock tips. Your hysteria gives hysteria a bad name.
You won’t hear any crying for the GOPe.
But hey, someone mentioned Jack Posobiec today. He just lit into #QAnon with facts too connected to AG Barr.
Enjoy folks!
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1116048036470378498
Your assumption I don’t understand is frankly silly. I understand it all too well.
People were talking about who could be Q in the Trump White House. If you didn’t hear Seb Gorka’s name mentioned that’s fine. I and others sure did.
In spite of your denials, it is clear you do not understand why some FReepers follow QAnon so avidly. Your lack of the ability to catch on to that is silly.
I didn't hear Seb Gorka’s name mentioned because this is the longest time I have ever given to a "Q" thread thanks to your ravings. Thanks to you I will study further.
romanesq ~ Except Nostradamus didn’t ask people to pay him to decode himself as these QAnon grifters do. ;)
ABSOLUTELY!!!
No one has made one red cent writing a book about what Nostradamus meant, or it's relevance to today's world, and they have to pay handsomely to go on the lecture circuit!
*ouch* Point made...
LOL
It’s all good baby!
As you probably know, there are a lot of "synchronicities" between Q and POTUS that may be taken as evidence, if one is so inclined, that Q is part of President Trump's team.
I hold this view--that Q is an alternate communications channel, like Twitter, which the President uses to get his messages out to a particular audience--BYPASSING THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA.
As I'm sure most FReepers agree, the FAKE NEWS is an Enemy of the People, and it is CRITICAL for POTUS to COMBAT against them in many different ways.
Q is part of that strategy.
There's more I could say, but will leave it off this thread.
I want to thank the mods for allowing this thread--which I'm guessing is an experiment in allowing the two sides of the Q question to interact. I hope it is deemed a success.
Lied he was never married.
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Look no further than the null result of the Mueller report and the coming fierce counterattack as signaled by A.G. Barr today and yesterday.
Q has been assuring both these results were forthcoming since almost his first appearances in late 2017.
"Patriots in control" has been a constant refrain, leading most of us who put credence in Q to have been FAR MORE OPTIMISTIC (and correct!) than the great majority who saw gloom and doom in Mueller, wanted him fired etc.
For one that hasn't come true yet: Q has indicated for a long time that there are recordings of a call made from the infamous Tarmac meeting to HRC (presumably as confirmation of the "Deal" offered Lynch, which was the RBG SCOTUS seat). We shall eventually see if that comes out to be true.
Another tantalizing suggestion is that Obama used a video link to receive his Presidential Daily Briefing from the intelligence agencies; and, thus, there is recorded evidence of him ordering the illegal spying on the Trump campaign and the attempted Russian frame-up.
Again, time will tell. Obviously either of these pieces of verification would go far beyond public-source information if proven accurate.
Yup, add Jack to the list who is blasting away telling the truth about #QAnon being a grift/scam.
More people are coming out with evidence so it’s flaming out ironically at almost the same exact time as the Russia Collusion Hoax.
Great day for America today. MAGA!
> Q has been assuring both these results were forthcoming since almost his first appearances in late 2017.
I was already assured of those results long before Q ever appeared, as was everyone else who already knew the truth about the Steele “dossier” and its origins.
Much (not all) of what is held out to be Q verification is stuff I and lots of other people already knew. He could have cribbed almost everything off Zero Hedge, tbh. And if you didn’t know he was doing that it would look like original material. But all of this stuff was discussed fairly widely among political junkies before Q intersected with it.
So you show your true sure.People are making money off of Q.I hope they make a million off of Q.
I guess unlike you I don’t have to do a lot of research to recognize a scam. I listened for awhile and then realized that someone who was sincere does not speak in riddles for those following to figure out the meaning. But by all means, view yourself as the brightest among men. Perhaps I am wrong, I am not infallible but I’ve been right more often than wrong. Especially when it comes to sizing up people. Take care and have a blessed day.
Yes fatima, they have. They are writing the ‘Q’ posts and then doing shows to “decode” their QAnon posts.
That’s part of the scam and they are not US Military, they are not in the Trump White House and close the president. They are a threat to the President - re: “the House is safe.”
They are hurting MAGA. They are a threat not an aid and they are grifters.
As for Jack, no idea what you’re talking about “married.” Here’s what Posobiec wrote on Twitter:
“Barr just nuked Qanon. He announced his spying investigation publicly. There was never any secret investigation, nor ever a reason for one to be kept secret. No secret Huber grand jury. Mueller wasn’t a “white hat.” There are no sealed indictments. Barr begins now.”
Jack makes a valid point. Add it to the pile of growing evidence. QAnon is cancer.
Jack hid he was married and cheated on his wife overseas and got the prettier girl pregnant.Divorced his wife in the US and brought his new girlfriend with him..Bad friends romanesq,ask him.
Hi, again Fatima. Yes, I don’t know Jack. I don’t know Seb Gorka. So if Jack has made a mistake in his personal life; it’s not for me to try to contact him about it.
Have a great night! MAGA!
How do you know Zero Hedge doesn’t follow Q? Any astute research group would be watching closely, even if they do not choose to acknowledge.
Anyway, Q and associated research could fill quite a few volumes. It’s all there if you are interested.
There must be about 300,000 Q-thread posts on FR alone.
We even have our own reference library courtesy of Swordmaker, and our own NOT-FAKE NEWS, the Oracle, courtesy of Bagster.
In addition we have some of the best Q researchers in the world, right here on FR.
> How do you know Zero Hedge doesn’t follow Q?
Because I firsthand observed all these topics discussed on ZH (and quite a few other places, including here) before they entered the Q-sphere. I know for a fact that Q didn’t come up with the subject matter or even the basic narrative, this was all the topic of active heated discussion before he entered the picture at all.
Jack has "bad" friends...who knew?
Lolz...
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