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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
Gorka’s royalty tone alone makes my deep state meter twitch.
“Gorka’s royalty tone alone makes my deep state meter twitch.”
Funny! But then you’d have to discount Donald Trump Jr. who came on his show after the QAnon attack on him.
DJT jr. lauded Seb Gorka as full on MAGA! So, yeah, not gonna work. Rock TT!
Amen.
Per you, I guess I do. I’ve been following Q posts not Trump Jr posts.
Trump praised DHS and SS and slam bam thank you plan, weaklings are gone.
No, it’s because when I do ask for evidence I get told things like I haven’t been looking for evidence and not having it is my own fault. In other words, the kind of circular logic you find in a cult. If Q proponents showed one piece of evidence for every hundred times they talked about how much evidence there is, they wouldn’t find perfectly reasonable and open-minded people like myself thinking they got suckered by an internet prank.
“Per you, I guess I do. I’ve been following Q posts not Trump Jr posts.”
Maybe it would be better to follow MAGA not the QAnon MAGA hoaxers.
Just say’in.
Define projection:
You are the hoax
Here’s You claiming Mueller wasn’t done a year ago
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3741004/posts?page=112#112
April 2018:
“What happens to the special counsel?
Rudy met w/ Mueller today.
Coincidence?
Connect.
Public announcement.
End of POTUS investigation?
Continue w/ other investigations?
Stage set?
Support growing?
Strategic?
Planned?
We have it all.
Welcome to the WH.
Q”
Oh yeah, it’s April 2019 and no, the Mueller scam investigation did NOT end in April 2018.
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Here’s You claiming you’ve previously posted the article about Mueller being done over a year ago
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3741004/posts?page=215#215
I’m hardly ignoring anything about Mueller’s investigation scam. Shoot, I’ve linked the Big Politics article myself.
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And the very article that proves Mueller was done over a year ago.
Hahahahahaha
CONFIRMED: Mueller Dragged Out Investigation For More Than A Year After Finishing It
Apr 1, 2019
Former special counsel Robert Mueller “exhausted” his investigation into President Donald Trump’s non-existent Russia collusion in December 2017, but kept the investigation going for more than a year even though he was warned that he was impeding President Trump’s ability to govern the United States of America.
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And trust me the irony of you decoding a drop was not missed it was very entertaining
THAT is a notable. Roman is a believer now. A cultist. A Qtard.
Top Kek!
But really, this is still a good discussion. Kidding aside. I ignore the name-calling. All I'm doing is seeking the truth. No one can fault me or anyone for that. If they do, then they have a motive to avoid truth.
Let's all have a discussion and present our facts and let each decide. Shall we?
Asked and answered BiggBob.
You won’t answer my question. Can’t handle that truth staring at you no doubt.
Perhaps that straightforward short question puts you on tilt.
Why is it so hard to deal with Donald Trump Jr. appearing on Seb Gorka’s show praising him as real MAGA after he was attacked by QAnon?
Go ahead, just answer the question. We’ll wait.
Or you acting like a typical shill with obfuscation and ignoring what you don't like, only you know.
How's this for evidence, LOL:
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00654343&cycle=2018
I'll even post an excerpt on who the treasurer is:
Official PAC Name:
MAGA COALITION INC
Location: MIAMI, FL 33131
Industry: Republican/Conservative
Treasurer: MCQUEEN, GINGER
FEC Committee ID: C00654343
In typical liberal-type fashion you acted like a victim when you claimed the Q team called out maga coalition first.I proved to you that was just NOT TRUE when the treasure and most likely her cohorts have been attacking Q for a lot longer before the Q team called them out.
CGato
Do you remember when all of the Q haters though Q was BS because of the claims that there was a huge reckoning coming for members of the deep state. Now we hear that the reckoning has begun. The senate is actually pursuing charges with the DOJ. OIG report on FISA within two months according to Barr. But the Q haters would often call BS it you told them that such an investigation was going on.
If anyone wants to know something about Donald trump and what he has set out to do in regards to the deep state then I recommend that they listen to Donald Trump in his own words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ
Why do you think it matters who challenged who?
That’s not what I wrote.
I pointed out that the mighty QAnon who descended from the heavens to save the world somehow decided while doing so to attack an obscure, small pro-Trump PAC.
The evidence is that preying insect was the one who posted the attack on MAGA Coalition (and likely Seb Gorka & his family) too.
Deal with that fact and stop with stupid repetive name calling.
Let’s hear the explanation of why QAnon went after Maga Coalition, a tiny PAC.
I’ll wait.
No it wouldn’t
For example see post 268 where the very troll that started this thread accidentally proved that q posted something a year before it was released publicly
That the Mueller investigation was done in April of 2018
Besides
I suggest you don’t take anyone’s word for it you go see for yourself
Quite a different tact than the name calling shills
“I can not debunk Q so feel free to try. Good luck. “
It’s already debunked. But they’ve outed themselves, that’s part of the evidence.
That preying insect got snagged. Also, Pamphlet Coleman so that’s that.
Magacoalition.com published all the evidence. More not less is coming just as in the Russia Collusion Hoax.
The thing is, we all went and found our own evidence. It's not that hard to find if you just look.
It's all right there just waiting for you to put in just a LITTLE effort.
Are you special?
Nah I going to go post the new Q proof you discovered over on 8 chan
I’ll make sure every knows you found it
It’s Amazing a year earlier q told us Mueller was done in April of 2018 and the media didn’t report it till April 2019
Thanks again
“That the Mueller investigation was done in April of 2018.”
That’s the article’s speculation. I’ve indicated the facts suggest it was earlier.
I pointed out the QAnon post that you’re wrong about that like the QAnon grifters.
The evidence is that the Mueller scam investigation stopped pursuing Russia Collusion in 2017 and focused on building an obstruction case.
That only shows QAnon wrong yet again. You have trouble dealing with these among many other problematic facts.
That’s ok. I can help correct it.
Nope, I’ve addressed this again. You are not very good at debating facts. Your attempt to twist one QAnon error is entertaining though.
Far bigger evidence on the QAnon grifters is out in the wild. More is coming.
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