Well, look at that. We actually agree on something.
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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
So predictable every time you get caught in a lie you try some lame ad Hominem attack
Why are you trying to distance yourself from the MSM when they are saying the same thing as you?
PS were you lyin earlier when you said this:
“Oh yeah, it’s April 2019 and no, the Mueller scam investigation did NOT end in April 2018.”
Or were you lying moments ago when you said this?
“I’m hardly ignoring anything about Mueller’s investigation scam. Shoot, I’ve linked the Big Politics article myself.”
You mean the big politics article that says the same thing as the drop you posted?
Such a derp, tries to disprove Q accidentally posts a proof
LOL
You think I’m the DNC Media?
You’re a funny guy.
Well, look at that. We actually agree on something.
Yes, I’ll take your word that’s true.
But who has the goods? Think both James Brower and Defango do.
They are going to make more details/documentation public. So lets wait and see on that front.
I think you’re DNC Media?
Nope. I think you have your head up your ass and find it comfortable there.
You purposefully mischaracterize what’s going on and chose to slur all of us who pay attention to what Qanon has to say.
You do so maliciously, and like every leftist everywhere, claim the moral high ground while doing it.
You troll using the exact same methods of every other Social Justice Warrior (SJW) out there.
You aren’t nearly as unique as you want to believe you are.
So, no. I do not think you are DNC Media. I do believe that you get your marching orders from the same sources that give the DNC Media theirs.
Yes. You are.
But you don't seem to know it.
Or do you?
I’m not lying about anything. I answered you with an indisputable fact.
Like the Russia Collusion Hoax, I expect we’ll see more evidence come out there and on the QAnon grifting hoax.
Since I’m taking orders from no one perhaps you need to open your eyes.
Dark to light! MAGA
Now, I know you are full of it and actually twisting the facts but it's not surprising since you are purposely promoting maga coalition here.
One thing the Neon Revolt investigation in to maga coalition revealed, is Ginger McQueen is the treasurer of maga coalition. Anyone who has been seeing this play out on social medias knows Ginger McQueen has been on the Q attack way before the Q team called them out. Just check out her twitter feed and you'll see it's the same anti-Q suspects over and over again.
Here is even an anti-Q article by her way before maga coalition was called out last month: https://gingermcqueen.com/2018/08/19/the-cold-hard-cash-behind-qanon/
Nice try but try reading Neon Revolt's investigation in to maga coaliton. I've come to the conclusion maga coalition and its shills cannot be trusted.
CGato
No you claimed Muller and Trump were working together and instead proved that q posted in April of 2018 a year before the story came out that the Muller probe was done over a year ago
Thanks for playing
So you're an independent derp?
#LoneWolfMcDerp
“I have yet to see evidence to convince me that it’s anything but a creative writing exercise.”
That is because you and so many others never even look for the evidence. When you do see it then you ignore it. Your mind is already made up. A mathematician could take the time to do a statistical analysis of all the Q events/post that tie to Trump tweets and words. They would conclude that there is no mathematical possibility in the entire universe that they were all coincidence.
Sadly I doubt that you could name even one of those dozens of examples in order to debate if it were real or not. And yet you all feel like you are experts.
Keeping pushing for MAGA Coalition, be my guest.
Now wait just a durn minute!
We know each other, we’ve enjoyed meals together, we’ve hung out, been to each other’s houses.
How much more will it take to convince you I’m an idiot?????
I’ve read 250+ posts and this has to be the most kind numbingly boring thread I have ever read.
I know it’s my own fault, but I sure wish I had that 30 minutes back.
It seems that Gorka and his wife know how to use the Fake MAGA collation to make some bucks.
He is upper crust, no doubt. Family went through the U.K. I believe.
Just another small point in all the wrongs proven wrong to date in the #QAnon Hoax.
Yeah, no evidence but more name-calling.
President Trump is a shill.
Donald Trump Jr. Is a shill.
Seb Gorman is a shill.
I’m a shill too. Lol
Because the QAnon grifters, anonymous to some tell you so.
LMAO!
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