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Priest criticizes teen who killed himself at funeral
New York Post ^ | Dec 14, 2018 | AP

Posted on 12/15/2018 4:10:34 AM PST by sparklite2

Maison Hullibarger’s father tells the Detroit Free Press that he asked the priest to stop talking during the Dec. 8 funeral Mass. But Jeff Hullibarger says the Rev. Don LaCuesta continued giving a critical sermon at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Temperance.

Hullibarger says some mourners left the church crying.

The archdiocese released a statement Thursday saying it’s sorry that an “unbearable situation was made even more difficult.” The archdiocese says LaCuesta will not preach at funerals “for the foreseeable future.”

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To: CodeToad

1 John 5:13 I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.


101 posted on 12/15/2018 8:14:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bayard
David repented of His sin, did you forget that part?

Yes I do....but Roman Catholicism does not. He and Bathsheba would not be allowed Communion based on Roman Catholic dogma.

102 posted on 12/15/2018 8:14:28 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: miss marmelstein
You appear so weak when you call in your little army - who are well-versed in disliking “The Roman Religion” and need no help from you.

I understand the Roman Catholic doesn't like it when their true positions are exposed to the light of day.

And yes, all forms of suicide are morally wrong - bringing great heartache to the people left behind and endangering one’s mortal soul (except in the case, of course, of mental illness). Sad to see you disagree.

You too are completely ignoring the promises of Christ and believing instead the false dogma of your denomination.

103 posted on 12/15/2018 8:16:05 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: anton
Forget dogma. The ultimate cowardly, selfish act. Next to murder. I spit on his grave.

You're a sad sick person.

104 posted on 12/15/2018 8:17:50 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: ealgeone

Not True.

He would have been allowed in a conceivable case, Sacramental confession covers forgiveness of sins and he would have had to have a valid marriage exchange of vows.

The reason why suicide is very bad is it ends a person’s chance to repent and change their heart in this life. The bible is littered with examples of repentance and how it is supremely important.


105 posted on 12/15/2018 8:18:41 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Elsie

I’m not getting into bible quote wars, but you can find the phrases about pride and judgment yourself.


106 posted on 12/15/2018 8:18:56 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: Elsie

P.S. Before you start posting walls of spam, don’t bother, I don’t read your spam.


107 posted on 12/15/2018 8:19:33 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: ealgeone
My denomnation is 'way too judgmental' on this issue?

We teach, in fact, that NOBODY has the right to say "You are damned" or "He is damned" or "This guy (this named person) is in hell."

We have a right - in fact a duty --- to judge

These things are objectively knowable. God says "Judge with sound judgment."

But it is otherwise for judging persons as to their individual nner spiritual state.

We do not know the very heart of the person: only God does. Thus we may not say, with moral certainty as a dogmatic fact, that even Judas is in hell. He way well be. He put himself into grave moral peril. But we do not know whether he gasped with his last strangled breath, "I have sinned! Lord have mercy!"

But true, I DO tout the Company Line, and hope I always may. God's word, which will never pass away.

108 posted on 12/15/2018 8:21:27 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Ikeon

Thank you for your gracious response.


109 posted on 12/15/2018 8:22:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Bayard
He would have been allowed in a conceivable case, Sacramental confession covers forgiveness of sins and he would have had to have a valid marriage exchange of vows.

Not per Roman Catholicism....they would have had to remain abstinent so as not to "commit adultery".

The hyjinks Rome goes to in their dogmas.

110 posted on 12/15/2018 8:22:02 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A “traditional” Catholic priest would have at the forefront of his mind the saving of souls. His reasoning would have been along the lines of: “I must warn others against this type of behavior, and by doing so, may discourage someone from following the same path.”

However, in our modern society, and in this context, it was an ill-advised thing to do.


111 posted on 12/15/2018 8:24:23 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: ealgeone

Did you forget that in David’s case Bethsheba’s husband was dead?

Matrimony is only for life, not forever. So it is perfectly possible for David to have had a valid exchange in the Catholic Church.


112 posted on 12/15/2018 8:24:26 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Mrs. Don-o
My denomnation is 'way too judgmental' on this issue?

Yep.

We teach, in fact, that NOBODY has the right to say "You are damned" or "He is damned" or "This guy (this named person) is in hell."

Yet Rome does it all the time with their anathemas if people don't believe what Rome says they have to believe....which is often not in line with the New Testament.

But true, I DO tout the Company Line, and hope I always may. God's word, which will never pass away.

You do tout the "company line"....it's the part about God's word that is in question. See my tagline.

SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.

113 posted on 12/15/2018 8:24:59 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Bayard
Did you forget that in David’s case Bethsheba’s husband was dead?

Yeah...."killed" in battle at David's order.

Matrimony is only for life, not forever. So it is perfectly possible for David to have had a valid exchange in the Catholic Church.

A marriage from the murder of the spouse would be allowed in Roman Catholicism????????

114 posted on 12/15/2018 8:26:30 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: ealgeone
You are wrong on every count.

It is amazing that you persist in telling Catholics what Catholics ought to believe, when your batting average on actually grasping Catholic doctrine is at near zero.

Please tell us what you believe.

But for the 347th time, do not tell us what we believe.

It is just tedious.

Thank you.

115 posted on 12/15/2018 8:27:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: ealgeone

For a person who references scripture so much, you should have read the story of Uriah the Hittite. Its in 2 Samuel


116 posted on 12/15/2018 8:27:21 AM PST by Bayard
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To: CodeToad; Elsie
P.S. Before you start posting walls of spam, don’t bother, I don’t read your spam.

Yet you posted to elsie twice and did read the posts!

117 posted on 12/15/2018 8:27:39 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You are wrong on every count.

Nope. Just repeating what I've heard Roman Catholics on these very forums preach.....you included.

It is amazing that you persist in telling Catholics what Catholics ought to believe, when your batting average on actually grasping Catholic doctrine is at near zero.

Again...just repeating what I read from your fellow Roman Catholics on these forums. Perhaps your issue is with what they believe.

But for the 347th time, do not tell us what we believe.

I can understand why the Roman Catholic doesn't like their dogmas thrown back at them. They see they are cold and heartless as in the case of this young man's situation.

We can tell Roman Catholics what they have to believe because your denomination has made it clear what ya'll believe.

I've found when confronted with these on a personal level the Roman Catholic, like a liberal, doesn't like it.

SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.

118 posted on 12/15/2018 8:33:11 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Bayard
For a person who references scripture so much, you should have read the story of Uriah the Hittite. Its in 2 Samuel.

I have.

Your point?

119 posted on 12/15/2018 8:35:33 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Ikeon
I'm guessing these people were not real every- sunday -church goers if they didn't know there were no eulogies allowed at the funeral. eulogies are for the wake.. Its a church service, a rite, not a free for all in the Catholic Church. Sometimes Catholics do it Rite!- pun intended
120 posted on 12/15/2018 8:36:17 AM PST by Ikeon (Sadly, the sheep just voted a wolf as the head chef in their own house. whats for dinner? mutton)
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