Posted on 11/04/2018 11:18:34 AM PST by Conserv
It's heartbreaking and very well done.
His father was murdered and then 6 yrs later his 18 yr old sister was raped and murdered.
While I sympathize with Grammer’s feelings on the issue, I still think that the amendment route is the wrong way to go about this or any other issue.
Amendments are attempts to skip around the legislative branch and government. It’s trying to skip around the elected officials whose job it is to represent their voters and the voters issues, and amendments are a form of direct democracy, and as we all know, direct democracy is not a winning format for governing.
If amendments and direct democracy are how the people wish to govern, then, let’s get rid of representative government.
Florida’s equivalent to the GA “Marcy’s Law” amendment is Amendment 13. I voted no on this one.
I have a fundamental negative reaction to putting Constitutional Amendments on the ballot for voter approval. Voters (the public) cannot be as well versed in the nuances of a particular amendment, especially when there are 12 or 13 of them on the ballot. The end result of ballot-passed amendments can, and sometimes do, result in lousy law. Kind of a mob choice affect. We elect State Reps to represent us and to do the necessary staff work to pass sensible laws. The Legislature is where the Constitutional Amendment process belongs.
No I am not incorrect. Everything that is in this ridiculous amendment was passed by the Georgia legislature last year. They want to put it in the state constitution. No need to do that
Since you don’t live here you have no clue
+1. (You beat me by a little over a minute!)
We pretty much did that when they allowed lobbyi$t$ into the halls of government.
So you do not believe that victims have a right to know where their attacker is living, even though the attacker is given their victims home and work addresses, ostensibly so the attacker can stay away from the person they victimized?
And my apologies, the Marcy’s Law equivalent in FL is Amendment 6.
Didn’t you say it wasn’t an amendment on the mid-term ballot? The reason may be to strength it and make it harder to strike from the books. So I am not sure that it is worthless. But you are correct, it is not my state. I was just setting the record straight about it being on the ballot, at least according to that article.
The problem the amendment was not the Marcy’s Law reference. The problem was that the amendment promoters stuffed two additional factors unrelated to Marcy’s Law. It’s precisely the kind of “promotion” that makes ballot initiatives abhorrent to some of us. The other two parts of the amendment were:
- Increase the judicial retirement age from 70 to 75 years of age; and
- Prohibit state courts from deferring to an administrative agency’s interpretation of a state statute or rule in lawsuits.
Particularly, if a quick modification to the statute is deemed prudent.
Giving the convict his victim's addresses seems unnecessary and clearly undesirable. Any of the Marcy statutes that does so ought to be modified
For instance, instead of exercising its authority to provide and exercise enforcement of address-specific "forbidden zones", the government ought to simply draw an area on the map with irregular boundaries that would not suggest the address and make that area a zone forbidden to the convict.
He’s advertising the same message for Florida Amendment 6.
Whoops. This *may* work:
https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia_Amendment_4,_Marsy%2527s_Law_Crime_Victim_Rights_Amendment_(2018)
[snip] Henry Nicholas, founder of Marsy’s Law for All, is funding this effort. Marsy’s Law is named after Henry Nicholas’s sister, Marsy Nicholas, who was murdered by her ex-boyfriend in 1983. Henry Nicholas has been behind legislative proposals for the law in Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Nevada, and other states. He has spent at least $27 million on support campaigns for Marsy’s Law measures. As of April 2018, five states have Marsy’s Law, including California, Ohio, Illinois, North Dakota, and South Dakota. Montana passed Marsy’s Law, but it was later overturned. Nevada, Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Georgia are voting on Marsy’s Law in 2018. [/snip]
How awful. That poor man.
No I didn’t. I said there was no reason to vote for it because Georgia already has laws providing the protections. There is no reason to add it to the constitution
Precisely
One should be very cautious when amending a constitution. Not everything should be in there
Based on what you wrote, I presume that you oppose the 19th Amendment.
He is on TV here for an amendment ballot issue, too.
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