Posted on 10/14/2018 5:57:16 PM PDT by daniel1212
Been working on a response for a Quora query, You are a devout Bible-fundamental Jesus believer. Or devout Catholic or Mormon. Why do you and your religious principles support and defend President Trump? Otherwise, why wouldn't you?
I only worked on what the alternative to Trump would mean so far. Any suggestions for this?
"Devout Bible-fundamental Jesus believer" best fits evangelicals, and even considering the alternative from that overall perspective should suffice for now, as illustrated by this (imperfect) analogy:
You are at a port along with many other people, trying to continue on a long journey to get to your final preferred destination, and you have a choice between two companies, ships, captains and crews.
The ship on the Left insists on engaging in some non-traditional social engineering, and has a destination quite different than where you want to live. The captain of this ship, owned by Soros and company enterprises, is (in his own words) a peace-loving, fair-minded, Kerry-for-President former pot-smoking hippie (but who did not inhale), who is ever conscious his/her racial color and supports guilt and discrimination based on this.
He (or “she” or “they” as the entity may choose to I.D. as), is as member in good standing of NWIMBY (no windmills in my backyard), and abhors those “deplorables” who “cling to guns and religion“ as anti-life, and supports a women's right to kill the unborn, and for self-identified men to use a bathroom with your wife or daughter, while seeking to control industry and the speech of others more. In short, the captain, reflecting company policy, is ever striving to fundamentally transform the society which produced the U.S. Constitution and reminds him of Biblical values.
In that interest, the captain informs you that on this ship there are many polices to be followed, which have been adopted from practices, principals or proposals of many elite liberal institutions of higher education. Which means:
• This ship flies the flag of Sodom, and anything but support for the nation for which it stands (such as kneeling when its anthem is played) will be considered evidence of homophobia, which is profoundly intolerable. Those found guilty of such may face severe economic sanctions.
• The choice of which bathrooms one uses is to be determined by whatever gender one feels comfortable with (at least at the moment). Objections to this will be penalized in accordance with the scale explained below.
• Any babies that may happen to be born during this journey can be disposed off if unwanted by the mother, rather than her having to share her accommodations with this unwanted tissue.
• This ship will be escorted by Greenpeace activists to warn whales of our approach, while representatives of PETA will be onboard to ensure a vegetarian diet is followed (no eggs!). However, feeding sharks with any manner of flesh will be sanctioned.
• This ship is a gun free zone, including toys and mere replicas, and our policy in case of encounters with those whom conservatives sees as enemies, such as pirates or communist “guerrillas” will be to assure them we have no intent or means to harm them, and thus we expect they will reciprocate in kind. We can then smoke organic weed together, educate them on how to receive government benefits in California, and explain to them how they became “radicalized” because of George Bush.
• Consistent with this, corporal discipline of children (and only an average of 1.5 are allowed) is forbidden, as are all contact sports, but indoctrination by watching MSNBC or listening to NPR 5 hours a day will be required, after first reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to the (future) United States of Sodom. Students will be tested on such issues as how many problems can be blamed on Climate Change, and why conserves are dangerous racist homophones, and how liberals are objective/fair-minded and should be in control as being the elite minds. And how to engage in intimidation against those who disagree.
Among the types of speech that are to be progressively censored is that which expresses any doubt of past or present warnings regarding Climate Change, any conclusions of evolutionary science, or liberal polices in general. And of course (as if we have to say it), any speech, oral or written, or songs, celebrating Christian beliefs, especially if conveying any official sanction. This is critical in order to foster our desired diversity.
• The crew has been hired based upon racial quotas (with sexual orientation qualifying as race). Although this means that the best qualified person may not be hired if he or she is of the wrong race or self-identified gender, this is necessary in order to avoid discrimination.
• Likewise, penalties for infractions by crew or passenger will be determined by a scale based on racial status, with those of a majority race being penalized the most, at least by writing an essay confessing to their guilt as the favored historical race, and their need to atone for it. This is only proper, for those of minority race are not to suffer due to what they had no control over.
• Consistent with this, those who purchased first-class accommodations and benefits, regardless of how many years they labored to attain them, are to be compelled to share what they acquired with all others, regardless of whether they be stowaways, those engaged in the street-level pharmaceutical trade, or students in the elite art of protesting.
• Sharing wealth as being an expression of mercy and grace is not condoned: instead, obtaining what others earned is to be considered a Right as Victims of those who labored for greater benefits, and the latter are to be increasingly penalized for gaining wealth, and for presuming to share such as acts of mercy and grace.
• This divestiture will first be for and through the captain and administration, who uniquely may enjoy without guilt greater benefits they attained as elite saviors of the perpetually oppressed. This is necessary in order to maintain a class-less society in which the goal is for all to share an equal level of poverty prosperity (except for their elite comrades). At the ships final destination of Venezuela this goal will hopefully be realized.
• Cultural appropriations by certain races are prohibited, such as Europeans wearing Hawaiian shirts or cooking General Tso’s chicken (even if virtually unheard of in China). However, everything from wearing Western clothing to eating pizza or a sandwich (at least calling it that) is permitted regardless of where one is from.
• No one is to be allowed onboard who has ever been banned by Facebook, or supports any organization promoting traditional moral values, and or has been censored by the $outhern Poverty Law Center, or who has been the subject of any allegations (proven or not) of ancient impropriety by liberal women (unless the accused is an verifiable liberal), or who has not apologized for having ancestors who owned slaves. And for driving an SUV or other truck vehicles. The Terms of Service on your boarding pass provides more specific details of what may be judged offensive (note “otherwise objectionable” and “violative of any law”) by politically correct police at their discretion.
• If you have any doubt as to what may be considered offensive behavior, the general rule is that the alternative to traditional Judaeo-Christian morals and principals are to be followed. For instance, expressing that unmarried consensual (though a formal consent form my be required) sexual relationships are sin will not be tolerated. However, failing to recycle is considered to be the equivalent of a mortal sin.
• Although extensive efforts have been made to prohibit intolerance, in case of violations, real or perceived, there are assigned Safe Places on every deck for those who feel offended by politically incorrect speech, or suspected microaggressions. Bring you own Play-Do if you prefer.
As for me, I’m a Canadian so I have no influence over Trump’s votes, but if I had an influence, I would’ve voted for him, for sure!
Why? Because I see the mentality of those who oppose him, and simply want no part of it. Rioting, manifesting, crying and screaming, fighting, etc. are no ways to resolve a conflict. All the disrespect against those who spoke in favor of Trump makes me sick. All the lies and fake news perpetrated by the many mainstream medias and the tech industry (e.g. Google, Twitter, Facebook, etc.), etc. infringes on freedom of individuals and prevent objective thinking.
Before Trump, I actually considered myself a Democrat, and would’ve never endorsed a Republican. I watched Jon Stewart and agreed with everything he ...
Strange Canadian!!
I'd think he'd be either:
(Maybe he’s recently moved to Canada.)
Figures released to Lateline from the Australian census shows the Church of Scientology’s membership is in such decline, that it is outnumbered by people who identify as Jedis and Wiccans.
Poor Hubbard...
Will Joseph Smith be NEXT??
Because Trump is fundamentally good, but not perfect.
“It seems about the only verse many liberal know is “Judge not,” which is misinterpreted apart from its context”
Thank you!!
“’We either accept weaknesses in good people or we have to tear pages out of the Bible.’ Robert Duvall”
Duvall said that? Interesting. I heard that when he made “Tender Mercies” there was a change in his life. Maybe it’s true.
President trump came out speaking very simple truths about Washington, his opponents and the state of our country.
EXACTLY!
"Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).
Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.
"But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us" (2 Thessalonians 3:6).
"And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).
"Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself" (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).
"Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple" (Romans 16:17,18).
All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep's skin.
We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." (John 7:24).
“Judge NOT??? Sigh... Jesus has commanded us to judge!”
Absolutely. The Bible is practically a textbook on how to judge.
Really?
I've cited the 2011 Trump Prophecy.
Since you claim such prophecies are "a dime a dozen," name a few more. I mean, since they're apparently everywhere...
What your glib and inaccurate retort fails to acknowledge is that The 2011 Trump Prophecy made several predictions, every single one of which has proven correct. But you just keep mouthing your pre-scripted replies with your blinders nice and tight. They suit you.
So bring us all up to speed on all these other "prophesies" you claim to see all over the place.
"...So-called Prophecies ...are a dime a dozen," Really? I've cited the 2011 Trump Prophecy. Since you claim such prophecies are "a dime a dozen," name a few more. I mean, since they're apparently everywhere... What your glib and inaccurate retort fails to acknowledge is that The 2011 Trump Prophecy made several predictions, every single one of which has proven correct. But you just keep mouthing your pre-scripted replies with your blinders nice and tight. They suit you. So bring us all up to speed on all these other "prophesies" you claim to see all over the place.
So you must resort to falsely presenting what I said, which was not prophecies about Trump being elected being "a dime a dozen," but it referred to being about revival (which i pray for)? Or was this just care-less-ness on your part?
As for challenging dime-a-dozen prophecies of revival, are you serious? Examples abound. Just the archives of Kim Clement would show that, but we could start with some by the famous Benny Hinn way back in the early 90s, who among certain other prophecies predicted that right after the death of two spiritual giants in n that decade the greatest revival in the history of man would begin. “One will die suddenly while asleep and the other will die with sickness. And as both giants die, which will be in the mid-nineties, I will shake this world with the last revival. Their deaths will be the closing pages of this move and the new move of God will begin which I have promised.”
“The Lord said this to me. He said in the mid-nineties two of my giants will go home. And right after that, the greatest revival in the history of man would begin. Well just recently one mighty giant went home, that’s Dr. Sumrall. ... My very precious friend. Now I don’t know who’s next. I’m not going to predict anyone to go home now. ... But we are now in the mid-nineties. This is - this is - this - this is the time. Saints, put your seat belts on. Something is about to happen” (June 11, 1996)
And as can be heard in this audio clip (about 4 minutes in) Benny Hinn in a previous declaration (1999 - the time of Pres. Clinton's presidency) Hinn assured us that Hafez Al-Assad (the president of Syria) was bound by his Arabic honor to get the Golan heights back before he died as he had promised he would do. Hinn even stated “If he does not get the Golan back his son will never be president.” The result of this treaty is that all of the Middle East and Northern Africa - Iran, Libya, and Ethiopia excepted - would enter into a peace treaty with Israel within a few months. This would result in 1. A tremendous revival throughout the world: “More people will get saved in this short period than any time since Pentecost.” “I predict by the anointing of God I feel on me that every loved one you have prayed for ... will be born again when that move hits!” 2. A tremendous outbreak of miracles: “A move of the miraculous unseen since Pentecost.” Reiterating a Kathryn Kuhlman prophesy, Hinn said, “There won't be one sick saint in the Body of Christ.” 3. “The greatest move of prosperity in world history” would be realized by the saints. All this would begin “The second they sign this peace treaty.” “I'm telling you it's going to happen, no question about it.” “We are all waiting for this mighty move ... just next door. Weeks away; no more than just a few months away.
Of course, to get in on this blessing they were exhorted to get to the phones and make a donation. Also predicted in the 90's, likely as part of this predicted revival,
“The Lord also tells me to tell you in the mid-nineties, about ‘94 or ‘95, no later than that, God will destroy the homosexual community of America. But He will not destroy it with what many minds have thought Him to be. But He will destroy it with fire. And many will turn and be saved, and many will rebel and be destroyed. - Orlando Christian Center, Dec. 31, 1989” More recency, as reported in the Christian post , in the United Kingdom Hinn said "… The Lord said to me in '89 – yeah, '89, He said when Oral Roberts and Billy Graham go home will be the key, will be a sign, of the beginning of the greatest revival on earth. Oral is home. Billy is about to go home. And when he does, I am telling the whole church, get ready."
From Hinn we can go to the aforementioned Kim Clement, who also has many followers, though far less than Hinn, who in 2005 prophesied,
So, you know, I'm a pianist ,as well -- a classical pianist. And I broke my wrists and my arms severely in '94. And I had visions for five hours, and I saw this nation going through a purging. And beyond that purging would be THE greatest revival and move of the Spirit that this nation has EVER seen.
At the end of October -- and I'll share a little bit of that if you want me to -- at the end of October (God said this YEARS ago. . . .He said that at the end of October of 2005), the beginning of a four-year harvest, like this nation has never seen, is about to take place. EVER. EVER seen. For 300 years, [we've] never seen anything like it. Literally, He said to me (and I prophesied this.
Now God says, "YOU shall experience it in your house FIRST -- before the nations -- shall experience it -- it shall come to your house first," says the Lord. IN YOUR HOUSE FIRST. Receive it in your house . . . IN MY HOUSE. . . THIS THAT YOU HAVE PROMISED In one of many prior prophecies on TBN, March 5th, 2002, Kim prophesied,
Therefore, the Lord says to you tonight, Get ready, for my kingdom is coming and I shall declare my glory. The miraculous, the miraculous, what is this about the miraculous? The miraculous shall be in this way. I will do things you never thought I would do. I will bring a cure for AIDS/HIV. God says there shall be a cure. I will raise them up. But what about the gays? God says, I will take gay people and I will cause them to be filled with my Spirit and to speak my Word with purity and life.
Also predicted was revival in the RCC (April 13, 2003 - Humble, TX):
Do I hear Catholics praying? There is a move of My Spirit moving among the Catholic people. They are dissatisfied. Their children have been abused taken advantage of. They are praying for God to come into a system and shake it. Your prayers are being sent into the very highest powers of the Roman Catholic Church. For a Pope shall be laid to rest, and I will raise up an unusual man that will take that position. And even though some of you despise this, I will raise up an unusual man that will come in and bring the Spirit of God amongst the Roman Catholic people. Think it not possible, but it shall be so, says the spirit of the Lord...
Before this (in 1996) he predicted Middle East shieks would become Spirit-filled believers, and Clinton and Democrats and Republicans, and the House of Representatives would bow their knees to God in the face of Islamic attacks.
Then there is the fairly well-known Rick Joyner, who predicted in 2012 (Week 31) of
As I have mentioned before in the Vision of the Harvest that I was given twenty-five years ago, I saw two waves of revival coming upon the earth. The first was the greatest move of God in history for gathering people to the Lord. That wave of revival began just a couple of years after I received this vision. More people came to Christ during that move than had come to Him before in all of history. I was also shown a period of relative spiritual quiet before an even bigger wave of the Holy Spirit swept across the earth. That wave is now approaching, and it will be the biggest move of God on the earth of all time.
Then there is the plethora of lesser known prophets, such as Axel Sippach who predicts ,
There is a New Breed generation arising of African-American believers who have been in places of preparation, now ready to run with wild abandonment into all God has prepared for this generation, with the torch of revival in their hands, igniting an apostolic move of God that will bring a fresh new Awakening to America and beyond. The Lord has stirred this in my spirit this morning, and I believe that the time is now.
Added to this would be the 2015 foresight and more tempered predictions of J. Lee Grady, editor of Charisma from 1999 to 2010:
A Christian youth revival will produce a new generation of leaders. American churches will become more intentional than ever on reaching children and teens—and vibrant expressions of Christianity will arise amid the spiritual darkness on college campuses. Expect to see many student-led evangelism movements, fueled by passionate worship and prayer.
In addition, Charisma magazine reports that,
Christians across America say God is telling them He wants to birth a Third Great Awakening in the land. And He's using intense personal encounters with some Christian leaders to tell them He wants them personally involved. "I'm going to send a Third Great Awakening to America," Dutch Sheets, author of An Appeal to Heaven, said he heard the Lord tell him a couple of decades ago. Christian journalist and author Jennifer LeClaire added that she's been hearing it will be "a greater Great Awakening than the world has ever seen." She writes all about this coming revival and reformation and how to get there in The Next Great Move of God.
More recently (3/20/2018), the same magazine tells us that Dr. Hakeem Collins predicts,
As I was in prayer concerning the present state of the church at large, the Lord began to reveal to me that we are at the tipping point of mass revival coming.
The Lord spoke to me that there are coming wildfires of revival hitting the body of Christ. These wildfires will not be destructive fires but constructive and consuming fires of revival. He gave me the image of wooded sticks on fire speaking of people through whom the next move of God will come. God revealed the term "firebrand" in my spirit. He is going to use firebrand-type revivalists who are glory carriers to spark and ignite personal, corporate and global change. It will happen through intense prayer, worship, fasting, soaking, prophesying and Holy Spirit-filled hunger for the glory of God.
And far more can be provided, yet which are only a small portion attesting too "prophesies" of revival indeed being "all over the place." Thus it is you retort that is "glib and inaccurate," and the burden of proof is upon you to show that these prophesies are not all over the place!
And note that I did not assert that revival cannot be realized to some degree, but i think it would likely take something on the order of a nuclear attack on the country for it to be realized to some degree.
As for
The 2011 Trump Prophecy made several predictions, every single one of which has proven correct. But you just keep mouthing your pre-scripted replies with your blinders nice and tight. They suit you.
The fact remains that it is your pre-scripted reply that is a problem, since I see no list of these that have been fulfilled, and as said, rather than all who rise up against Trump being removed as a threat, their number has only increased as he acts as the most conservative president since Reagan.
However, I do pray the Republics trump the Democrats in the Midterms, and for Trump and the admin to have wisdom and victory in doing what is right, as well as not providing the opposition with any useful ammo for their cannons. that they have not if that includes God will personally removing all who rise up against him," and asserting you just keep mouthing your pre-scripted replies with your blinders nice and tight. They suit you.Therefore the burden is
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