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Colonizing Mars: What To Do If There Is Life In The Ground Water (9min video w/ Dr. Robert Zubrin)
YouTube ^ | 9/6/18

Posted on 09/07/2018 4:34:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker

In this final preview clip before the premiere episode of John Michael Godier's Event Horizon. We discuss the possibility of there being life on Mars, specifically in the ground water, and what we should do with it if we colonize Mars, with Dr. Robert Zubrin the founder and President of the Mars Society, an international organization dedicated to furthering the exploration and settlement of Mars by both public and private means.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: bacteria; colonizing; life; mars; underground; water
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To: Artemis Webb

Intoduce the martians to sea monkeys


21 posted on 09/07/2018 5:20:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: Artemis Webb

My first reaction to that is that it looks like an unnamed diseased body part, but then I realized it also resembles certain figures who recently dominated the news...


          

22 posted on 09/07/2018 5:25:27 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

My God you’re right!


23 posted on 09/07/2018 5:28:45 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I like Zubrin’s point that Columbus’ discovery of America made it a far better place than it was, or probably ever could have become. Let’s not worry about the bugs on Mars!


24 posted on 09/07/2018 5:35:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Man has to build a rocket to safely travel to Mars but ‘bus’ only have to hitchhike or stowaway to make the return journey of same distance.


25 posted on 09/07/2018 5:41:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

As Zubrin says, they’ve been deep underground on Mars for billions of years. They haven’t evolved to infect humans, or any animals living on Earth, and wouldn’t be a problem for us.

This is similar to bacteria deep inside Earth that wouldn’t know what to do with us if it encountered us; it wouldn’t say, “Oh, let’s go infect that guy!” They wouldn’t know how to do that even if the thought occurred to them. We’ve lived “side-by-side” on Earth with them for billions of years (geological processes do bring them to the surface once in a while) and never has their DNA turned up in a sick person, which might indicate infection.

A pathogenic species and “victim” species have to evolve together, continuously, for a long time in order for the pathogen to be able to infect the victim. Well, at least, that’s what I get out of listening to Zubrin in this video.


26 posted on 09/07/2018 6:36:10 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Great post.

In the minds of most people (that’s the rational ones) the chief impediment to a Mars colony is TECHNICAL.

I think as the perceived feasibility of the Marse Colony challenge builds, another question will get sharper and sharper:

“Will mankind WORSEN Mars in some sense and therefore, SHOULD this infection we know as civilization go there..?”

The insane people who ponder that (or pretend to, hoping to signal their greater virtue or to be somehow be BOUGHT OFF by more productive types) have lots of influence.

Most people have barely heard of this central question and we need to smash the trolls before we spend too much money along this path.

They’re going to be a YUGE obstacle.


27 posted on 09/07/2018 6:38:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Finally! Someone addresses the main point of this video. Thank you!

Yes, I really like Zubrin for what he says about... well, let’s face it... liberal stupidity. I hope conservatives give him a chance. Though a big proponent of going to Mars, he’s clear-headed and sees right through liberal crap.


28 posted on 09/07/2018 6:48:39 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Just make sure the little guys on the water aren't the human bait put out by the big guys on the water...


29 posted on 09/07/2018 6:51:30 PM PDT by moovova
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To: LibWhacker

Colonizing Mars: What To Do If There Is Life In The Ground Water
Make soup.


30 posted on 09/07/2018 10:10:17 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: LibWhacker; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; disndat; KoRn; Grammy; steelyourfaith; Mmogamer; ...

This is a change, Zubrin used to say, why stop colonization because of some native life, that’s insane!

Toxic Effects of Martian Dust on Humans
https://mepag.jpl.nasa.gov/goal.cfm?goal=5

Toxic Mars: Astronauts Must Deal with Perchlorate on the Red Planet
By Leonard David, Space.com’s Space Insider Columnist | June 13, 2013 https://www.space.com/21554-mars-toxic-perchlorate-chemicals.html


31 posted on 09/07/2018 11:57:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: LibWhacker
As Zubrin says, they’ve been deep underground on Mars for billions of years. They haven’t evolved to infect humans, or any animals living on Earth, and wouldn’t be a problem for us.
If he really said that, he's just displaying scientific ignorance -- one has nothing to do with the other.

32 posted on 09/07/2018 11:59:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Just make sure Mars isn’t put in the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals. They’d issue an order that humans can’t use the water, even if it’s OK.


33 posted on 09/08/2018 4:34:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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