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Police say pot to blame in deadly Fremont car crash
Los Angeles ^ | May 16, 2018 | 10:00 AM | Brittny Mejia

Posted on 05/16/2018 6:15:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin

A 21-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of marijuana Tuesday night after a multicar crash killed three in Fremont.

The collision, which involved five vehicles, occurred around 9:30 p.m. on the northbound I-880 near Stevenson Boulevard, according to the California Highway Patrol. Three people were killed when they were ejected from an Escalade — a woman, a teen and a child.

Five other people, four of whom are juveniles, were injured in the crash.

Similar to other states that have legalized pot, California now relies on drug recognition experts — police officers trained during a two-week course to conduct cognitive tests and notice other physical signs of drug-related impairment during a motor vehicle stop — to make the initial determination that a driver is under the influence.

A bill proposed in the state Senate last month calls for a one-year driving suspension for any motorist under 21 caught with marijuana in his or her system.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: california; cannabis; dui; marijuana; potheads; stoned
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1 posted on 05/16/2018 6:15:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

No way!! :)


2 posted on 05/16/2018 6:19:00 PM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: BenLurkin

In before FR’s Libertardian addicts insist pot is harmless.


3 posted on 05/16/2018 6:20:48 PM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: BenLurkin; JustSayNoToNannies

Inconceivable!
I was assured by justsaynotonannies years ago that people would NEVER drive while toked.
So obviously this is all propaganda.
/ Sarc

;-)


4 posted on 05/16/2018 6:22:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: BenLurkin
my guess is that pot smokers have been responsible for many accidents but never checked because they don't smell of alcohol...

which is why alcohol is always blamed while in many cases its pot or multiple drugs/alcohol use...

However, we need more than a "trained" cop of TWO WHOLE WEEKS accessing the situation.

5 posted on 05/16/2018 6:22:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: BenLurkin

Naturally I don’t think pot should be legalized. Having said that, I don’t think pot killed those people. If they were ejected, they weren’t wearing seatbelts. And that is why they are dead.


6 posted on 05/16/2018 6:23:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: BenLurkin
Obligatory Cheech and Chong


7 posted on 05/16/2018 6:36:32 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Talk about cognitive dissonance. If they had been wearing their seatbelts then the accident wouldn’t have happened, right?


8 posted on 05/16/2018 6:40:28 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Pot didn’t kill them.

The person who smoked then drove killed them.

One should not ever smoke and drive, and that is coming from a person who smoked and drove many times, but was fortunate enough not to have caused the death of any innocent person with his stupidity and selfishness.


9 posted on 05/16/2018 6:42:43 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If you are ever shot dead I’ll have to remember to let the court know that you would have wanted the killer top go free because you weren’t wearing a bullet proof vest.


10 posted on 05/16/2018 6:45:05 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: BenLurkin

Three people are dead, and this isn’t shocking to me. This is why I’m opposed to legal recreational marijuana. The American people seem to be growing more and more in favor of it, though, and ultimately we will see the long term consequences (good or bad).


11 posted on 05/16/2018 6:51:08 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Responsibility2nd

“If they were ejected, they weren’t wearing seatbelts. And that is why they are dead.“

The Venn diagram would show that there are many stupid people who don’t smoke pot.

Where I live, the newspeople reporting serious/fatal accidents always seem surprised when the people in the accident WERE wearing seat belts. We have plenty of freedom-loving people here who don’t like the Government telling them what to do.

I’m not a fan of Illinois, but they have a policy of contributory negligence-if you are in an accident not your fault and you are injured, you can sue for medical bills but you can sue for up to and including nothing for pain and suffering if you aren’t wearing seat belts.


12 posted on 05/16/2018 6:52:13 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: BenLurkin

It’s pretty simple - Don’t drink and drive, toke and drive, drop acid and drive, smoke crack and drive, shoot smack and drive, sniff glue and drive, etc.


13 posted on 05/16/2018 6:55:58 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m all for legalization, but this stuff bothers me. There seems to be a push among users in legal states to allow getting high at work. High Times magazine even has articles about what strains allow you to get “mildly” high so you can use and be on the job. And there are also those who say they’re not as impaired driving as one would be while drinking.

Legalized pot should be only for use in the home. I don’t want my fellow employees or folks on the road endangering anyone’s lives — especially my own and my family’s. And being high is impaired enough to preclude either one of those activities.


14 posted on 05/16/2018 6:56:59 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: BenLurkin
Three people were killed when they were ejected from an Escalade — a woman, a teen and a child.

Yeah, being ejected from a vehicle during a collision significantly increases the risk of death.

15 posted on 05/16/2018 7:00:22 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well, maybe the trauma of being ejected is the physical cause of death, but the proximate cause may well be the errors in judgment of the toked up driver. Saying that the crash is what killed airline passengers when the reason for the impact was pilot error... see the false narrative there?

Folks say the cause of death was a bullet wound and the gun is what put the bullet there, but we all know that the person who fired the gun is the cause of the incident.


16 posted on 05/16/2018 7:04:43 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Pinkbell

CA has had defacto legalized pot for over 20 years. Yet it is one of the safer states in terms of highway deaths.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/state-by-state-overview/2016

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MJ laws have gotten looser nearly everywhere in the same time period, yet highway fatalities have fallen to historically low levels.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

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That doesn’t mean looser pot laws are responsible for the increased safety, but it does make it hard to claim these laws have made the highways more dangerous.


17 posted on 05/16/2018 7:11:51 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Magnatron

One of the problems with legalizing pot is that there is no clearly defined level of “this much = impaired”, and levels can last quite a long time unlike alchohol.

I’m wondering how many people in favor of legalizing pot would also be in favor of their son or daughter in law driving their grandkids around the next day after a mellow evening.


18 posted on 05/16/2018 7:12:09 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: Ken H

“CA has had defacto legalized pot for over 20 years. Yet it is one of the safer states in terms of highway deaths.“

That’s because most driver miles are spent going three miles an hour three feet behind someone else’s bumper :)


19 posted on 05/16/2018 7:14:45 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: Ken H
...but it does make it hard to claim these laws have made the highways more dangerous.

This thread is direct contradictory evidence to that statement. It seems to be very easy to make that claim.

20 posted on 05/16/2018 7:16:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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