Posted on 12/12/2017 9:30:01 AM PST by JockoManning
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I'm fairly averse to starting threads. But this is an important issue--and--with the help of my housemate, I'm willing to bother. We would be willing to discuss it with seriously interested folks.
Portugal's changed laws and treatment of addiction issues has changed their statistics and the results in individual's lives and the lives of their family members has yielded dramatic success. We can do better, as Christians, conservatives and Americans.
From the original source article (same is in referenced article):
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A true enveloping substance addiction is gritty, and tends to be enabled by a varying degree of self-loathing. Self-loathing is such a tumultuous, seemingly endless circumstance that any decent person would not wish on their worst enemy–yet it is something that many decent people deal with on a regular basis. Modern advancements in cognitive sciences have conclusively shown that this state of mind (self-loathing, low self-esteem, an existential dilemma of similar nature with a deep tone, et cetera) is a neurological state that is considered “cognitive dissonance.” This means, with the many layers of consciousness that it takes to assimilate a “Waking Consciousness/Diachronic Narrative,” there can be pieces that don’t meet; there are pieces missing from the self-image of the individual, and this causes a literal dissonance in a person’s biosocial interactions and feedback. The “missing pieces” come from the person’s own neurological landscape, and are perpetuated/reinforced/diminished by the environment according to what the environment represents, and how the individual person has been predisposed to stress-handling-mental-mechanisms beforehand.
As developed by Dr. Stanislav Grof {one of my housemate's professors} in over 50 years of psychiatric therapy and research, these growing predispositions that dictate how a person reacts to circumstances can be called “CoEx Systems” (Condensed Experience). CoEx Systems are like neurological highways, and their principle operates like the flowing stream to the Grand Canyon–meaning that pressure and repetition over time creates deep-seated mechanisms. Grof’s research is termed “holotropic” therapy, and the idea of CoEx Systems and a noted neuronal growing pattern is neither inherently positive nor negative. However, this accurately represents a crucial piece in understanding the deep-seated mechanisms that are involved with addiction, or any neurosis for that matter.
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Mental dependency is closer to the center of the matter because it analyzes the thought-mechanisms of the individual–the CoEx Systems that make the person a slave is the addiction. In fact, the etymology of the word ‘addict’ is ‘someone who is indebted,’ meaning that they are a slave in a sense to a prearranged agreement that they cannot yet fulfill their end of. This is the true definition of addiction and it is a bottomless psychological, existential dilemma–not genetic or a mental illness. Obviously, genetic and mental factors do play a role, but the fact of the matter is that some may be predisposed to a higher chance of addition due to personal and hereditary factors, yet no one is predetermined to be an addict. Institutionalized, prearranged methods of “rehabilitation” only address the substance dependency, instead of the underlying causal mechanisms in the brain.
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Biology, which sets the original template for Cognition, which represents the original template for social interaction. When this synthesis is interrupted, it causes this cognitive dissonance and sets the causal foundation of addiction. The effect of the addiction–or, rather, the CoEx Systems that lead to the addiction–can biologically be summarized as an inefficiency to formulate/maintain healthy relationships; a lack of ability to bond with people, because of dysfunctional social mechanisms that stem from the self.
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The next step of the equation is understanding where these dysfunctions come from, and almost without exception, they stem from the social inertia that was initiated in the parent-child bond during the first few years of life. This is definitely not meant to be interpreted as “all of someone’s problems stem from childhood,” but, rather, in a very literal way: The brain is wired to formulate a template of self-concept during the first initial years of life, and as these neural patterns begin to strengthen, this strength then compounds due to simple inertia, and the activity thus becomes more and more condensed. Essentially, this is to say that until a person learns the deep implications and true value of authentic self-reflection, the habits that have gained inertia in the first few years of life will continue to compound until an event in the ambient environment catalyzes a change. Self-reflection, after all, is considered to be one of the definitive differences between humans and animals. Only when a person is taught to authentically assess themselves on a consistent basis will they slowly begin to reign in the inertia of their negative habits, in order to reassess. In terms of addiction, this is why the process is so messy and extensive. To use a simple fishing metaphor: the addict has cast their line, and before they can understand what they have caught, they must first reel it in.
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You are obviously so involved in RAD that you can’t or won’t here anything else
Look up the say alcoholics...true alcoholics....process alcohol
The fact that some folks with mental illness use alcohol to feel better is not what alcoholism is
They are not beliefs. They are opinions based on scientific fact
Treatment centers for alcoholics have a miserable record. They teach stupid things like relapse is part of recovery
You ain’t an alcoholic and hence cannot understand it at all
Don’t bother responding any more. You merely show the ignorance of those who do not understand what alcoholism is
I gather you've never heard that alcohol is for alcoholics the anesthesia of choice for the pains of living--as flawed folks in a flawed world.
Sorry we weren't able to help you learn something useful about RAD and alcoholism. The professional links may help others make useful connections, however.
Cheers.
Perhaps it would be helpful for you to elaborate at great length about what YOU believe alcoholism is. I’m very slightly curious about that.
I gather you gave never read about how alcoholics process alcohol
Your ignorance doesn’t get and keep sober
Why not read some things on the other side
RAD is a very uncommon diagnosis.
http://www.childrenintherapy.org/attachmentdisorder.html
It’s just a guess on my part, but you’ve never raised any children, have you?
How alcoholics process alcohol doesn’t change the fact that the neural brain grooves with the dopamine loop phenomenon becomes ingrained at an early age. And THAT fact has a lot more influence on alcoholics seeking their anesthetic of choice than the other way around.
The profession has not caught up with the realities of the oligarchy engineered destruction of fathers, fathering and the family.
My housemate actually believes that the frequency of significant degrees of RAD is even higher than 80%. He believes it's closer to 95%.
He arrived at those figures from the 3,000+ students he's taught on 2 continents. With classes of 35-75 students, probably at least 50% of those classes did not have ONE student who seemed to be relatively free of significant RAD. In the rest of those classes, probably 90+% of the other 50% of those classes had only one or two students who were relatively free of significant RAD. Maybe a total of approximately 5 of those classes may have had no more than 3 students who were relatively free of significant RAD.
Suffice it to say, we are quite comfortable with the accuracy of our estimates of the incidence of significant RAD. If anything, the younger the cohort, the more RAD.
When we say "significant RAD," we mean sufficient amounts of it to cause significant, obvious, chronic problems in virtually all their relationships and in their expression of emotions.
I've raised a son and a daughter. They also have significant RAD but are doing amazingly well in their careers and marriages. My son has 5 kids that appear to be extremely well adjusted. My daughter just had a new baby.
Oh, I forgot to mention another addiction--control-freakism.
We are literally programmed to think down given pathways--many of them very early in our lives--and enduringly over the whole of our lives. That's part of what the OP is describing.
And, that's part of why it's so difficult to change someone's mind from liberal to conservative.
And it's getting worse. Now there's technology that allows the government to program our thinking more heavy-handedly and to more refined, detailed degrees.
And that doesn't even get into demonic influence.
There's reasons the Bible insists that we not be unfittingly judgmental in critical-judgment kinds of ways--because we have not walked in their shoes--with all the forces channeling their thoughts and actions toward certain specifics.
Yes, we still have a measure of "free-will." But that is diminishing all the time.
And RAD diminishes a huge chunk of it early on.
If you have never had a compulsive, habitual thought pattern, PTL. However, I'm 100% skeptical that you have not had such a thought pattern.
None of us are as totally free in our wills as we'd like to think.
Bertrand Russel bragged more than 70 years ago, IIRC, that eventually, the oligarchy would control individuals and the population as a whole through very sophisticated mass, group and media based psychological techniques. They are already almost fully there.
Just witness the sheeple's responses to the lies of the mass media.
My dad was outrageously emotionally verbally abusive. He thought it was his duty to deride, attack, undermine, etc. my personhood and confidence every day. He claimed it was the only way I could be made fit to be around.
He has required our mother and us 4 daughters to walk on egg shells around him 24/7 all our lives. Otherwise he instantly erupts into a literal 2-year-old-mentality-&-behavior FIT. We thought he was going to have a heart attack merely because my housemate left a phone message to my mother--or maybe it was an email. He was raging for hours--maybe days. I forget. But that's what I grew up with.
I was way to smothering of my kids. And, my husband running around on me early in our marriage didn't help my emotional or psychological health.
I have been extremely careful about boundaries the last 10+ years of my relationship with my adult kids. We have made progress. However, they still tend to keep me on a short leash even though I have NEVER pushed my boundaries with them or tried to impose my constructions or opinions on reality on them.
Both of them ended up liberals--largely from their black father's influences. Then my son took an admin job with a major corporation and began to see things differently. My daughter is beginning to see that the liberal constructions on reality don't quite fit. It doesn't help that she works in San Francisco.
I'm eager to hear your prescription.
You seem like you are an extremely BLACK or WHITE 100% vs 0% sort of person. Your teens must have had fun with that.
about also wrong . . . sorry, I mixed you up with the other bloke in my head as I was writing that response.
You stated.....”We are literally ‘programmed to think’ down given pathways—many of them very early in our lives—and enduringly over the whole of our lives.”...
We are certainly ‘influenced’ but taking it to the degree of being ‘programmed’ is far fetched at best when it comes to ‘willingly’ taking in to the body whatever substance of ones choice which leads to addictions.
... talking about the brain..... we see the world via the brain...programming as you’re implyiing is ‘brainwashing’.....the healthy brain connections are already in place at birth..... obvious brainwashing is possible when it comes to controlling people as we see in the muslim world and NKorea.....where they are not ‘free’ to choose.
But that is very different than saying a person becomes addicted because he’s programmed so.......rather he destroys the pathways in his brain by being an addict.
Remarkably the brain has an amazing ability to heal if given the time to do so as well as those pathways which have been harmed.......in other cases the damage is so severe little amount of healing can occur.
But I totally disagree peoples brain pathways are programed ‘for addiction’.....that’s pure baloney.
Am rushing off on errands at the moment. Later.
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