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Woman says DTE shut off power because she won't get smart meter
Fox2Detroit ^ | 10/30/2017 | Ingrid Kelley

Posted on 10/31/2017 4:28:22 AM PDT by simpson96

FERNDALE, Mich. (WJBK) - A Ferndale woman says DTE Energy shut off her electricity, even though her bills were paid in full.

The problem she says, is that she didn't want the utility to install a smart meter at her home.

"Basically you are being blackmailed," said Kay Watson. "(They are saying) you either take it or we cut power."

Kay Watson is outraged, she says she paid her bill, but DTE disconnected her service on Sunday over her refusal to get a smart meter.

"The guy was here at the door telling me they're going to put in a smart meter and I said no," she said. "He said you're refusing? And I said yeah, so he said we're cutting your power."(snip)

DTE says it contacts customers on several occasions before it takes action. But Watson considers the action a violation

"I consider it a threat to all of our freedoms," she said.

The utility company says it has has installed more than three million smart meters since 2008 and plans to install the remaining electric smart meters this year.

DTE says Watson called Monday asking for a smart meter in order to get her power turned back on.

But Watson says she never requested that and only wants the "opt out." A program which allows a few customers who have concerns to have a smart meter installed with a digital signal turned off.

DTE says at 4 p.m. Monday afternoon a crew went out to Watson's home and provided her with the opt-out option, and her power has since been restored.

DTE says customers who choose to opt out will be charged a one time fee and $9.80 per month for meter readings and related services.

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To: ncalburt

No, I don’t.

But I don’t generate my own power. So I have to buy it. I don’t own anything till it hits my fuse box. The power company has the right to change the meter, because it is their meter.

I have heard of people chaining dogs to the meter to keep them from reading it.


21 posted on 10/31/2017 5:27:36 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: simpson96

I pay $10 a month to opt out of Smart Meters here in Maryland.

There are lots of stories here of people getting radically more expensive utility bills and there’s no real method to get it fixed.


22 posted on 10/31/2017 5:32:37 AM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Celerity

You do know that they have variable rates based upon the time of day? Power is cheaper during the overnight times and more expensive during peak times. My power bill actually went down because it turns out I consume most of my power at night.


23 posted on 10/31/2017 5:33:36 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: redgolum

They are taking control over your power usage period .

They can cut your power remotely without warning or coming to your door to tell you why .

Complete control with smart meters ..
It’s why they did it .


24 posted on 10/31/2017 5:37:17 AM PDT by ncalburt (l)
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To: sneakers

Opt out and have them remove it .
You don’t want it .


25 posted on 10/31/2017 5:38:11 AM PDT by ncalburt (l)
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To: Haiku Guy

There is no such agreement.


26 posted on 10/31/2017 5:43:24 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: ncalburt

How’s life under that tin-foil hat?


27 posted on 10/31/2017 5:44:25 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: ncalburt

Well, they can do that now without the meters too.

There are smart switches on the pole.

At least were I live. They have busted a few grow operations that way.

The power company tried to mandate everyone sign up for “smart” controls on their HVAC, but that failed. Again, they own the line, but I own everything after it.


28 posted on 10/31/2017 5:48:01 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: MarMema
Fires are one reason. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/16/fire-chiefs-call-for-smart-meter-probe-after-blazes/15751373/
29 posted on 10/31/2017 5:50:41 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Bikkuri
No.

There is a one time fee to install it and every month you have to pay to keep it or they will cut off your power.

Something like the cable company.

30 posted on 10/31/2017 5:51:07 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Haiku Guy
Utility can’t be expected to abide by decades long mutual agreements

What mutual agreements would those be? Was there a mutual agreement that the utility would never upgrade their (THEIR not HER) equipment? Does this imaginary mutual agreement apply to generation mix as well so that they would never switch to cheaper natural gas combustion turbines, etc.? How about transmission and power lines? Did those imaginary agreements cover extending their grid to new customers?

The only mutual agreement between customers and utilities is that the utilities provide power and the customer pays for it.

31 posted on 10/31/2017 5:52:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
The only mutual agreement between customers and utilities is that the utilities provide power and the customer pays for it.

You keep on saying that as if it is a good thing.

I would agree. The arrangement is that the utility dictates and the customer has to take it.

That doesn't mean it is a good thing.

The fact that I may be a long-standing customer in good standing and a homeowner counts for nothing. If the utility wants to come in and unilaterally change the deal, they can and will do so. According to you, I should just lick the hand and take it.

32 posted on 10/31/2017 6:14:38 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: MarMema
Why do people fear smart meters?

1) They violate your privacy by creating detailed records on what appliances you are using and when. State laws to guard the privacy of those records have been foiled by billion-dollar lobbying campaigns by Facebook and Google, who want access to your data.

2) The smart meter can become the gateway to many other invasions of your privacy if you are foolish enough to equip your home with IoT (Internet of Things) devices. Think cameras and mics being turned on remotely, etc.

3) Smart meters give BIG BROTHER the ability to turn off your heat or AC whenever THEY think you are using too much energy.

If our forefathers did not take up arms at Lexington and Concord to stop stuff like THIS I don't know why they did.


33 posted on 10/31/2017 6:17:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: shotgun
My power bill actually went down because it turns out I consume most of my power at night.

Until EVERYONE figures that out, and off-peak time suddenly becomes the new peak time.


34 posted on 10/31/2017 6:19:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ncalburt

If you like your electric power, you can keep your electric power!

The average family will save $2500 a year!


35 posted on 10/31/2017 6:19:39 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Smart meters give BIG BROTHER the ability to turn off your heat or AC whenever THEY think you are using too much energy.
The same can be said for smart thermostats and even smart shower heads. Personally, I'll resist installing any of these smart invasions of privacy to the bitter end.
The same goes for those "intelligent home assistants" like Siri or Google Home.
36 posted on 10/31/2017 6:35:09 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Haiku Guy
...good thing...

Well I see you're changing the subject away from non-existent agreements to a new straw man. It is neither a good nor a bad thing. It is simply the nature of reality. Do you think that the customer should be able to set the terms of an agreement with the utility? I'm sure the BLM crew would set the terms so that they got power for free because they's owed. If she doesn't like that deal she can pay the opt out charge. Frankly I don't care what sort of meter I have. There are thousands of things in life more worthy of attention than that. Some old crackpot worrying about a smart meter is sort of on the fringe of nutty.

If she wants to worry about something let her worry about the fact that your smart phone can tell Verizon or T-mo or AT&T where you are every day. Or better still let her worry about the "mind control rays" that the cable company uses from their set top boxes, after all that's the next step on the ladder from eccentric to neurotic to psychotic

37 posted on 10/31/2017 6:36:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ncalburt
They can cut your AC or heat without notifying you for any reason .

They can do that without a smart meter, too.
38 posted on 10/31/2017 6:41:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: simpson96

My folks have one. The power company (small utility) saves loads of money not having to drive up in the hills in all kinds of weather to read the meter, they can do it in their office.


39 posted on 10/31/2017 6:43:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“They violate your privacy by creating detailed records on what appliances you are using and when.”

Since when? I’ve been out of the metering industry for a number of years, but I’m not aware of how they can monitor specific appliances. My toaster, refrigerator, microwave and water heater are all dumb. And I don’t think my 320 Amp “smart meter” is big or beefy enough to cut off that kind of current. Not all meters have load shedding devices connected. The only thing I’m aware of in a residential setting is some cases of the power company providing a device to connect to a water heater.


40 posted on 10/31/2017 6:45:03 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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